WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.920 --> 00:00:09.980 Hello everyone. So welcome to today's webinar. 2 00:00:10.250 --> 00:00:13.050 My name is Jiqiu Yuan. 3 00:00:13.050 --> 00:00:16.850 I am the Executive Director for the Multi-Hazard Mitigation Council. 4 00:00:16.880 --> 00:00:21.320 Also the Building Seismic Safety Council at the National Institute of Building 5 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:23.080 Sciences, known as NIBS. 6 00:00:23.870 --> 00:00:29.290 NIBS was established by the US Congress to ensure that all the areas of the built 7 00:00:29.330 --> 00:00:33.780 environment work together to utilize the best technology and focus on the 8 00:00:33.800 --> 00:00:39.320 sustainable sustainability when creating the place where we live, work, learn and 9 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:45.080 play. So developing research and convening experts to solve problems is a 10 00:00:45.080 --> 00:00:47.180 part of our overall mission. 11 00:00:48.370 --> 00:00:54.220 The Building Seismic Safety Council, known as the BSSC, is a council within 12 00:00:54.220 --> 00:00:57.460 NIBS established in 1979. 13 00:00:57.490 --> 00:01:02.800 The council's purpose is to enhance the public safety by providing a national 14 00:01:02.800 --> 00:01:08.590 forum that fosters improved seismic planning, design, construction and 15 00:01:08.590 --> 00:01:10.000 regulation in the building. 16 00:01:10.070 --> 00:01:11.800 Community. Community. Community. 17 00:01:12.790 --> 00:01:17.350 We are proud to work with all our federal and industry partners over the past 40 18 00:01:17.350 --> 00:01:20.920 years to help advance the seismic safety of our nation. 19 00:01:21.520 --> 00:01:27.460 Especially, we want to thank our sponsor, FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management 20 00:01:27.460 --> 00:01:32.680 Agency, for their support for producing the NEHRP, recommended seismic provisions 21 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:37.330 for the past many years and also to develop the supporting document, 22 00:01:37.360 --> 00:01:38.830 including today's webinar. 23 00:01:39.490 --> 00:01:44.920 So today the webinar is our ninth webinar in our NEHRP webinar series for this 24 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:51.270 year. This webinar series is based on the 2020 NEHRP, NEHRP Design Example 25 00:01:51.550 --> 00:01:57.600 publication. So all these slides have been published by FEMA is in the public 26 00:01:57.610 --> 00:02:02.420 publication number called FEMA P-2192. 27 00:02:02.420 --> 00:02:04.450 Again that's FEMA P-2192. 28 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:10.330 Strongly encourage you guys to download the report, which has more detailed step 29 00:02:10.330 --> 00:02:11.980 to step design examples. 30 00:02:12.010 --> 00:02:14.290 Also the PowerPoint PowerPoint slides. 31 00:02:14.830 --> 00:02:20.710 So our early ones in this series, we have covered many code change proposals that 32 00:02:20.710 --> 00:02:25.480 were introduced by the 2020 NEHRP provisions like the diaphragm design, 33 00:02:25.480 --> 00:02:29.260 coupled shear walls the new construction component design, etc. 34 00:02:29.440 --> 00:02:34.840 So if you missed them, you can listen to the recording through the BSSC website. 35 00:02:35.380 --> 00:02:42.040 So today we have three renowned speakers to talk about the grand motion topics, 36 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:46.360 the multi-period response vector, the new seismic design values under the new 37 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:52.060 requirements that are adopt in the ASCE 7-22 and hopefully will answer all the 38 00:02:52.060 --> 00:02:53.920 grand motion questions you may have. 39 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:57.310 Again, we have the most knowledgeable experts with us today. 40 00:02:57.940 --> 00:03:01.780 With that is my great pleasure to introduce our three speakers. 41 00:03:02.020 --> 00:03:04.630 So our first speaker is Charlie Kircher. 42 00:03:05.100 --> 00:03:09.850 And Charlie is a National Academy of Engineers member, registered a 43 00:03:09.850 --> 00:03:13.810 professional engineer with more than 40 years of experience in earthquake 44 00:03:13.810 --> 00:03:21.340 engineering, focused on the vulnerability assessment, risk analysis and innovative 45 00:03:21.340 --> 00:03:22.420 design solutions. 46 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:28.420 Dr. Carter is active in seismic code development committees of SEAOC also the 47 00:03:28.420 --> 00:03:31.210 ASCE, also the Building Seismic City Council. 48 00:03:31.930 --> 00:03:38.530 He was a key participant in the project, Project 97, Project 07, Project 17 of the 49 00:03:38.530 --> 00:03:43.120 beginning Seismic Safety Council that worked with the USGS to advance the 50 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.900 seismic design method and improve the earthquake ground motion maps. 51 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:53.310 For those who don't know the project, 97, 07 and the Project 17 strongly 52 00:03:54.160 --> 00:03:58.330 encourages you guys to review the last webinar given by Ron Hamburger and Sanaz 53 00:03:58.330 --> 00:03:59.700 Rezaeian. 54 00:03:59.700 --> 00:04:03.970 That's the that's the three project kind of set the foundation for the modern 55 00:04:03.970 --> 00:04:10.120 seismic design maps and also making all the major changes in the past 30 years. 56 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:14.380 So our second speaker today is Nico Luco. 57 00:04:15.130 --> 00:04:21.270 Nico is a research civil engineer with the US Geological Survey, USGS. 58 00:04:21.270 --> 00:04:26.290 There, he serves as the co-leader of the Engineering Risk Project, primarily with 59 00:04:26.290 --> 00:04:29.200 the National Seismic Hazard Modeling Project. 60 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:35.320 He has served as the USGS liaison for the BSSC on the Provisions Update Committee 61 00:04:35.320 --> 00:04:42.850 since 2005 and also served on the BSSC Project 07 and the Project 17 committees. 62 00:04:44.110 --> 00:04:45.460 Our third speaker is Dr. 63 00:04:45.460 --> 00:04:47.650 C.B. Crouse. So Dr. 64 00:04:47.650 --> 00:04:51.820 C.B. Crouse has been a consultant in earthquake engineering and engineering 65 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:58.270 seismology seismology for 47 years since receiving his Ph.D. 66 00:04:58.270 --> 00:05:00.610 in civil engineering from Caltech. 67 00:05:01.460 --> 00:05:05.880 He conducts seismic hazards and the cell structure interaction studies and 68 00:05:05.900 --> 00:05:11.180 develops earthquake ground motion for various types of projects throughout the 69 00:05:11.180 --> 00:05:15.890 world. He was a chairman of the Subcommittees on the Ground Motion and 70 00:05:15.890 --> 00:05:23.000 the Foundation Design for the 2015 2020 NERHP also ASCE 7-16 on ASCE 71 00:05:23.090 --> 00:05:28.910 7-2022 seismic provisions was the past chair for the subcommittees on the 72 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:32.420 ground motions for the 23 and 28 NEHRP. 73 00:05:32.450 --> 00:05:36.580 Also ASCE 7-05 and 7-10. 74 00:05:36.580 --> 00:05:38.980 In short, I think it's fair to say C.B. 75 00:05:38.980 --> 00:05:42.950 Is the go to guy. If you have any ground motion questions and that's all I heard 76 00:05:42.950 --> 00:05:45.830 from the colleagues without that's the. 77 00:05:46.250 --> 00:05:50.000 Glad to have our three renowned speaker here today with us. 78 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.070 So I will pass this to Charlie. 79 00:05:52.100 --> 00:05:59.150 Before we start, I want to have a cover, a few quick housekeeping items so all the 80 00:05:59.150 --> 00:06:02.990 participants will be able to type your questions through the Q&A buttons. 81 00:06:04.490 --> 00:06:09.320 Everyone's muted, except the speaker so strongly encourage you guys taping your 82 00:06:09.320 --> 00:06:12.430 questions throughout the Q&A button and during presentation. 83 00:06:12.620 --> 00:06:14.930 We will try to answer all the questions at the end. 84 00:06:15.470 --> 00:06:17.970 Second, the session will be recorded. 85 00:06:18.140 --> 00:06:21.650 The recording will be available on the BSSC website. 86 00:06:21.980 --> 00:06:26.210 Also, the Certificate for the Professional Development Hours PDA. 87 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:28.400 Also the continuing education hours. 88 00:06:28.430 --> 00:06:32.210 See useful. Eia and ICC will be provided. 89 00:06:32.540 --> 00:06:36.530 Look forward follow up emails for both the recording and the certificates. 90 00:06:37.130 --> 00:06:39.470 With that, I will pass this to Charlie. 91 00:06:40.220 --> 00:06:44.960 Thank you, everyone. Charlie? 92 00:06:44.960 --> 00:06:45.190 Yep. 93 00:06:53.330 --> 00:06:54.590 Thank you, JQ. 94 00:06:55.940 --> 00:06:59.270 I am going to talk about the first of the three talks. 95 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:02.390 Development of the new multi period response spectra. 96 00:07:02.690 --> 00:07:09.950 It's actually quite a complex process and I'll be giving you kind of a view from 97 00:07:09.950 --> 00:07:12.740 50,000 feet overview of the process. 98 00:07:13.130 --> 00:07:18.830 First, I want to say to all those that are designer types in the audience that 99 00:07:18.830 --> 00:07:23.120 these changes to the ground motions really don't affect the procedures that 100 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:29.360 are used in, say, other chapters of of the provisions and ASCE 7 for design. 101 00:07:29.690 --> 00:07:35.360 So the ELF procedures in Chapter 12 remain largely the same as do the 102 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.570 multi-tiered response spectrum procedures. 103 00:07:38.570 --> 00:07:44.090 So we're really changing the ground motion parameters, better view of the 104 00:07:44.090 --> 00:07:48.860 spectra that go into multi into response spectrum analysis, but not the actual 105 00:07:48.860 --> 00:07:52.370 ways that engineers calculate design forces. 106 00:07:53.570 --> 00:07:57.500 The ground motion parameters are available online. 107 00:07:57.620 --> 00:08:01.940 They're archived in a database that the USGS has put together. 108 00:08:01.970 --> 00:08:07.790 They're available through a USGS web service and other user friendly services 109 00:08:07.790 --> 00:08:09.080 that provide the values. 110 00:08:10.100 --> 00:08:16.430 And for those that do site specific ground motion analysis or need site 111 00:08:16.430 --> 00:08:18.290 specific ground motion spectra. 112 00:08:18.740 --> 00:08:25.580 The Chapter 21 now permits the multi period spectra of of this of 7-22 to be 113 00:08:25.580 --> 00:08:26.900 used for that purpose. 114 00:08:27.320 --> 00:08:28.880 And they are also available online. 115 00:08:29.390 --> 00:08:31.210 So why do we do this. 116 00:08:31.220 --> 00:08:36.980 Well. These response spectra multi response spectra provide a better 117 00:08:36.980 --> 00:08:42.980 collective. That characterization of the frequency content of the ground motions, 118 00:08:43.310 --> 00:08:46.850 they enhance the reliability of the design parameters that are designed 119 00:08:46.850 --> 00:08:48.560 derived from these ground motions. 120 00:08:49.790 --> 00:08:56.810 They make better use of available earth science, namely the 2018 update of the 121 00:08:56.810 --> 00:08:59.360 USGS national seismic hazard model. 122 00:08:59.930 --> 00:09:06.920 They eliminate a onerous requirement of 7-16 for site specific analysis at sites 123 00:09:06.920 --> 00:09:11.930 of certain soft cell sites that were put in there to solve a problem, which I will 124 00:09:11.930 --> 00:09:13.960 discuss briefly later. 125 00:09:13.970 --> 00:09:18.140 And but as I said before, they do not really change the procedures that 126 00:09:18.140 --> 00:09:19.700 engineers use for design. 127 00:09:20.810 --> 00:09:28.250 They affect three, four chapters, chapters 11, 20, 21 and 22, which I will 128 00:09:28.250 --> 00:09:32.840 go through summarizing the major changes in those chapters, Chapter 11, which 129 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:37.190 really defines the seismic criteria required for a design. 130 00:09:37.850 --> 00:09:44.950 Now specifies ground motion parameters, SMS, SM1 one 131 00:09:44.950 --> 00:09:48.340 PGA based on these new multi period spectra. 132 00:09:51.400 --> 00:09:56.320 That are archived in the USGS Seismic Design Geo database. 133 00:09:58.950 --> 00:10:04.710 Accessible by users, given the location and size class and a major change in 11 134 00:10:04.710 --> 00:10:08.640 was the deletion of site coefficients FA and FV. 135 00:10:09.210 --> 00:10:14.280 Because the spectra contain site amplification, it's built into the 136 00:10:14.280 --> 00:10:17.520 parameters of the spectra design parameters and the spectra. 137 00:10:17.520 --> 00:10:20.250 So site site coefficients are gone. 138 00:10:20.700 --> 00:10:26.100 And as I mentioned, those changes to site specific, those changes to the 139 00:10:26.100 --> 00:10:29.580 requirements for site specific analysis have gone back essentially to where they 140 00:10:29.580 --> 00:10:30.990 were two cycles ago. 141 00:10:30.990 --> 00:10:35.280 So really the only time that site specific analysis is required is for 142 00:10:35.400 --> 00:10:42.360 sites that are have particular problems such as site class F, although site 143 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:46.590 specific analysis can still be used any time the user wants to. 144 00:10:47.070 --> 00:10:52.230 In Chapter 20, the major changes included the addition of three new site classes, 145 00:10:53.310 --> 00:10:55.710 which are now based on shear wave velocity. 146 00:10:55.710 --> 00:11:00.540 And I think CVH is going to talk a little bit more about the specifics of that in 147 00:11:00.540 --> 00:11:06.240 Chapter 21, which is really the chapter that defines how to develop site specific 148 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:10.890 spectra, but it also defines how these multivariate spectra were created from 149 00:11:10.890 --> 00:11:12.660 the science of the USGS. 150 00:11:13.560 --> 00:11:20.370 A couple of important changes there were change to the deterministic marker mce 151 00:11:21.390 --> 00:11:27.540 r risk targeted ground motions or deterministic ground motions that were 152 00:11:27.540 --> 00:11:32.640 based previously on a characteristic earthquake or earthquake based on a 153 00:11:32.640 --> 00:11:35.460 characteristic magnitude, the science change. 154 00:11:35.460 --> 00:11:39.990 The magnitude went away and we had to come up with scenario earthquakes, which 155 00:11:39.990 --> 00:11:47.010 are now based on a look at the underlying seismic hazard of the site to see which 156 00:11:47.010 --> 00:11:51.750 faults govern the site and then to pick a scenario earthquake from that 157 00:11:51.750 --> 00:11:54.960 de-aggregation also of importance. 158 00:11:54.960 --> 00:12:00.450 The definition of the 1 second parameter has changed significantly, and I'll 159 00:12:00.450 --> 00:12:07.740 describe that a bit more later in Chapter 22, which is the chapter that contains 160 00:12:07.740 --> 00:12:09.570 all the maps of the ground motions. 161 00:12:09.570 --> 00:12:13.620 That chapter is updated to incorporate the most current science of the USGS. 162 00:12:14.640 --> 00:12:22.500 And because there's far too much data, the maps now show a maps of SMS 163 00:12:22.500 --> 00:12:28.290 and SM1 strictly for default site conditions because the data is really too 164 00:12:28.290 --> 00:12:29.760 voluminous to put in the maps. 165 00:12:29.760 --> 00:12:33.270 They're not they're not particularly useful anyway for most sites. 166 00:12:33.270 --> 00:12:37.470 So it's really online sources of of the data. 167 00:12:37.920 --> 00:12:45.240 So traditionally spectra have been defined by a two period spectrum two 168 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:50.280 period because it's defined at in the in the acceleration domain by response at 169 00:12:50.280 --> 00:12:56.040 about 0.2 seconds and in the, in the velocity domain by response at 1/2, 170 00:12:56.160 --> 00:13:02.610 assuming that the velocity domain decreases in response as one over t, this 171 00:13:02.610 --> 00:13:09.990 was found to be a problem in 2000 in the ASCE 7-10 and earlier editions 172 00:13:10.620 --> 00:13:13.410 that were underestimating the velocity of domain. 173 00:13:15.930 --> 00:13:21.000 So as I said, a problem was discovered as we were going through the development of 174 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:26.580 ASCE 7-16, we looked back and said maybe we should add some more periods besides 175 00:13:26.580 --> 00:13:32.460 1 second and the velocity domain and discovered that in fact response at 2, 3 176 00:13:32.460 --> 00:13:38.820 and 4 seconds was not obeying the one over T assumption of the standard 177 00:13:38.820 --> 00:13:46.620 spectrum, and particularly for softer sites where the site coefficients were 178 00:13:46.620 --> 00:13:49.700 not adequate to get up to the level we wanted. 179 00:13:49.710 --> 00:13:56.370 So how bad for softer sites like site class DX it's and it's as much as a 180 00:13:56.370 --> 00:13:59.250 factor of too low at longer periods of response. 181 00:14:00.810 --> 00:14:02.920 Just to illustrate how much lower. 182 00:14:02.940 --> 00:14:07.440 I'm going to show a series of slides here that were taken from the commentary of 183 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:08.700 ASCE 7-16. 184 00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:13.560 I'm going to show a series of different sites and sites and assumptions of 185 00:14:13.560 --> 00:14:19.740 hazard, but for each I'm going to start with the character characterization of a 186 00:14:19.740 --> 00:14:22.320 multi period spectrum for reference site conditions. 187 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:25.650 The red spectrum the corresponding. 188 00:14:27.380 --> 00:14:34.850 MCE ground motions for a site class of interest in this case, BC In this case, 189 00:14:34.850 --> 00:14:39.080 excuse me, Site class C, which is the dark blue spectrum, and two thirds of 190 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:41.650 that which is the spectrum we use for design. 191 00:14:41.690 --> 00:14:43.250 And as it turned out. 192 00:14:44.050 --> 00:14:48.070 The coefficients of ASCE 7-16 without any other adjustment. 193 00:14:48.100 --> 00:14:52.000 We're doing a fine job of emulating that design spectrum. 194 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.380 The Green indicates areas that are a little bit conservative, but no areas of 195 00:14:56.380 --> 00:14:58.300 significant underestimation. 196 00:14:58.420 --> 00:15:05.920 Repeating this process for site class DX You'll notice that as I move from site 197 00:15:05.920 --> 00:15:11.620 class DC to C today, you'll see the peaks of the spectrum move to the right, 198 00:15:11.620 --> 00:15:17.860 emphasizing that the softer the site, the more the more the response occurs in the 199 00:15:17.860 --> 00:15:19.000 velocity domain. 200 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:23.530 So again, we go back and take the coefficient and site coefficients and and 201 00:15:23.530 --> 00:15:30.250 construct the design spectrum and it and it significantly underestimates the 202 00:15:30.370 --> 00:15:33.310 corresponding underlying multi period spectrum. 203 00:15:33.310 --> 00:15:38.620 I repeat this again for site class E peaks move over further, the story gets 204 00:15:38.620 --> 00:15:43.600 worse. This is for a magnitude seven and if I were to use equations for magnitude 205 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:45.070 eight, it gets even worse. 206 00:15:45.070 --> 00:15:50.660 So we see that softer sites, larger magnitudes significantly underestimate 207 00:15:51.430 --> 00:15:54.820 spectrum. We would like these coefficients to be emulating. 208 00:15:55.450 --> 00:16:00.110 I just want to footnote here that these spectra these spectra are drawn using NGA 209 00:16:00.130 --> 00:16:03.190 West one ground motion equations. 210 00:16:03.580 --> 00:16:08.980 We are now using NGA West to ground motion equations which have to have about 211 00:16:08.980 --> 00:16:12.700 the same amount of content in the velocity domain, but a little bit less in 212 00:16:12.700 --> 00:16:13.870 the acceleration domain. 213 00:16:13.870 --> 00:16:19.180 So the acceleration domain is not quite as bad as this picture characterizes, but 214 00:16:19.180 --> 00:16:21.640 we have a problem and we had to have a solution. 215 00:16:21.640 --> 00:16:29.500 So in six, 7-16, the solution, the OP solution that was decided upon 216 00:16:29.500 --> 00:16:36.370 by the 7-16, the, in the NEHRP provisions, 2015 NEHRP provisions was to 217 00:16:37.910 --> 00:16:40.370 require a site specific analysis. 218 00:16:40.370 --> 00:16:45.950 Whenever we were, we realized that the the coefficients, the site coefficients 219 00:16:45.950 --> 00:16:47.450 were not getting the job done. 220 00:16:48.380 --> 00:16:54.560 This. This occurs in a lot of sites and it's onerous to require site specific for 221 00:16:54.560 --> 00:16:56.000 all these sites for most buildings. 222 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:02.270 So to to avoid that there are exceptions in 16 where we think we have conservative 223 00:17:02.270 --> 00:17:07.040 values. Can they be used for design in lieu of doing a site specific analysis? 224 00:17:07.520 --> 00:17:14.690 So for site class C, any site that was over point two GS at a reference site 225 00:17:14.690 --> 00:17:20.960 conditions 1/2 requires a site specific analysis, but can be avoided if you in 226 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:28.100 essence, the designer in essence bumps up the the design coefficients by about 227 00:17:28.100 --> 00:17:30.530 50% in the velocity domain. 228 00:17:30.530 --> 00:17:33.620 This affects primarily mid-period buildings. 229 00:17:35.630 --> 00:17:41.180 For site class E same problem, but both in acceleration domains requiring a site 230 00:17:41.180 --> 00:17:42.770 specific analysis. 231 00:17:42.770 --> 00:17:48.170 But to avoid that, the designer can use the short period coefficient for site 232 00:17:48.170 --> 00:17:53.300 class C, which is conservative with respect to site class E, but for taller 233 00:17:53.300 --> 00:17:57.920 buildings that would be extremely conservative and and site specific 234 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:03.440 analysis would be required for site class E for the taller buildings. 235 00:18:04.460 --> 00:18:07.280 How how common or widespread is the problem? 236 00:18:07.280 --> 00:18:13.340 Well, the orange areas of the map and this is courtesy of USGS. 237 00:18:13.370 --> 00:18:18.740 The orange areas indicate those regions in the United and the terminus United 238 00:18:18.740 --> 00:18:23.540 States where the ground motions at one sector of the reference site condition 239 00:18:23.540 --> 00:18:26.180 ground motions at 1 second exceed point two G. 240 00:18:26.210 --> 00:18:31.790 It's only about 10% of the contaminants U.S., but it represents about 90% of the 241 00:18:31.790 --> 00:18:35.990 financial risk. So even though it's a small, relatively small area, it's those 242 00:18:35.990 --> 00:18:41.720 areas of the strongest shaking that are most influential of of the risk. 243 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:48.110 The long term solution, which is what topic I'm talking about really is the is 244 00:18:48.110 --> 00:18:52.070 that is the introduction of multi period spectra into the 2020 NEHRP provisions 245 00:18:52.070 --> 00:18:53.690 and ASCE 7-22. 246 00:18:54.500 --> 00:18:58.280 So the idea is to define the ground motions, not in terms of two reference 247 00:18:58.280 --> 00:19:04.070 site parameters, but in terms of these these multi period spectrum, they can be 248 00:19:04.070 --> 00:19:08.540 used for multiple response spectrum analysis or to select records for 249 00:19:10.280 --> 00:19:11.540 response history analysis. 250 00:19:12.620 --> 00:19:19.520 Those spectra also are used to derive values of SDS and SD1 that best match the 251 00:19:19.520 --> 00:19:23.540 underlying spectrum. So to get around that poor fit I showed you, we now derive 252 00:19:23.540 --> 00:19:27.740 values of SDS and SD1 directly from the multi period spectrum. 253 00:19:29.380 --> 00:19:32.950 To use them. We need to know the site location and the site class. 254 00:19:32.950 --> 00:19:39.250 And then as I mentioned earlier, the Web, the USGS Web service can tap into the GEO 255 00:19:39.250 --> 00:19:41.170 database, provide the values. 256 00:19:41.770 --> 00:19:45.850 It's not super user friendly, and there are more user friendly versions in the 257 00:19:45.850 --> 00:19:52.000 whole building design guide or the ASCE-7 hazard tool, which are no different than 258 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:53.590 what they have been in past editions. 259 00:19:53.590 --> 00:19:58.270 So it's pretty much the same approach to getting ground motion data, except now 260 00:19:58.510 --> 00:20:03.280 the user can obtain spectra as well as values of design parameters. 261 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:09.590 So just a little bit background on Chapter 21 in particular, chapter section 262 00:20:09.590 --> 00:20:15.260 21.2, the the methods of Section 21.2 that are used to develop site specific 263 00:20:15.260 --> 00:20:21.770 spectra for a given site by a Geotech are are the same rules that the USGS uses to 264 00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:25.340 transform their science into code. 265 00:20:25.340 --> 00:20:29.780 Consistent descriptions of spectra and code consistent descriptions of ground 266 00:20:29.780 --> 00:20:30.890 motion parameters. 267 00:20:31.040 --> 00:20:35.030 So they're based on two things probabilistic ground motions defined as a 268 00:20:35.030 --> 00:20:39.890 1% in 50 year, a level of shaking that has a 1% and 50 year probability of 269 00:20:39.890 --> 00:20:46.040 collapse for an assumed hypothetical building fragility that has a 10% 270 00:20:46.040 --> 00:20:50.420 probability of collapse given the ground motions occur. 271 00:20:50.420 --> 00:20:53.960 If you're if you're a design engineer, you don't need to worry about this. 272 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:55.370 You just use the parameters. 273 00:20:55.370 --> 00:20:58.790 And if you're a geotech that does these studies, you're already familiar with 274 00:20:58.790 --> 00:20:59.870 this process. 275 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:05.690 But it's an interesting process to derive risk targeted ground motions. 276 00:21:06.170 --> 00:21:09.170 There is a second definition of deterministic ground motions. 277 00:21:09.890 --> 00:21:14.870 They're based now on scenario based, 84th percentile ground motions. 278 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.170 That's a new a new version, as I mentioned. 279 00:21:22.870 --> 00:21:25.810 They are derived from probabilistic ground motion hazard. 280 00:21:26.380 --> 00:21:30.460 That's new. And they're not less than a deterministic lower limit, which really 281 00:21:30.460 --> 00:21:34.990 says when you're to use probabilistic ground motions and when you might be able 282 00:21:34.990 --> 00:21:41.830 to use deterministic ground motions to determine design values, and that's done 283 00:21:42.070 --> 00:21:47.380 in the Section 21.2.3, which says take the lesser of the two, which always is 284 00:21:47.380 --> 00:21:52.600 probabilistic in the regions of moderate and lower seismicity and could be either 285 00:21:52.600 --> 00:21:55.420 probabilistic or deterministic in the higher regions. 286 00:21:56.510 --> 00:22:01.970 So our approach for developing multi period spectra was different, whether we 287 00:22:01.970 --> 00:22:07.380 were within the Terminus United States or whether we were outside the terminus 288 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:13.910 United States because we do not yet have all of the earth science in place for 289 00:22:13.910 --> 00:22:16.400 sites outside the terminus of the United States. 290 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:23.600 So we are we rely on the 2018 national seismic hazard model, the USGS, for the 291 00:22:23.600 --> 00:22:30.020 ground motions, which fully describe all response periods of interest for all site 292 00:22:30.020 --> 00:22:34.310 classes of interest in in the terminus U.S. 293 00:22:34.370 --> 00:22:41.150 outside of the terminus U.S., which includes Alaska, Hawaii and other U.S. 294 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:46.250 and U.S. territories, Guam and Puerto Rico, for example. 295 00:22:47.150 --> 00:22:50.810 We only know values of SS and S1. 296 00:22:50.940 --> 00:22:56.720 That's that's just two accelerations for one set of site conditions. 297 00:22:56.870 --> 00:23:01.670 And we might also know tl tl is the transition period between the velocity 298 00:23:01.670 --> 00:23:03.170 and displacement domains. 299 00:23:03.290 --> 00:23:08.450 It is a clue about the magnitude that controls the hazard at the site, which 300 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:10.550 influences the spectrum shape. 301 00:23:10.940 --> 00:23:16.340 So we had to come up with a way of taking values of SS and S1 and TL and developing 302 00:23:16.340 --> 00:23:18.470 a full suite of multiple period spectra. 303 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:23.960 And that was done in a project that resulted in a report FEMA P-2078. 304 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:28.490 You can obtain it online if you're interested, but it basically developed 305 00:23:28.490 --> 00:23:35.900 generic shapes based on SS, S1 and TL that could be anchored to the specific 306 00:23:35.900 --> 00:23:41.900 site, specific values of SS S1 and TL to create site specific spectra for sites 307 00:23:41.900 --> 00:23:43.700 outside the contaminants U.S. 308 00:23:43.700 --> 00:23:48.470 So an example of multi period spectra, these are based on the deterministic 309 00:23:48.470 --> 00:23:54.320 lower limit. Just an example somewhere in the database are these sorted data. 310 00:23:55.280 --> 00:24:02.930 They describe response at 21 response periods from 0 to 10, 10 seconds as well 311 00:24:02.930 --> 00:24:07.760 as PGA. And they do it for each of the eight hypothetical site classes from A to 312 00:24:07.760 --> 00:24:15.710 E. If you're a user, you would say, Well, I think my site is D and the USGS 313 00:24:15.710 --> 00:24:20.300 Web service and or the user friendly services such as the hazard tool would 314 00:24:20.300 --> 00:24:27.410 return a spectrum such as you see in under, under in the column, under site, 315 00:24:27.410 --> 00:24:33.290 class D. This can be done for any site in in the western or central and eastern 316 00:24:33.290 --> 00:24:38.900 U.S.. For sites outside the U.S., as I said, concerning the U.S., I said we only 317 00:24:38.900 --> 00:24:41.100 have these three parameters to work with. 318 00:24:41.180 --> 00:24:43.550 Well, really. And PGA, which doesn't help. 319 00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:46.670 Just a short period in 1/2 values. 320 00:24:46.670 --> 00:24:50.630 And we fill in the rest of the matrix using those procedures. 321 00:24:50.780 --> 00:24:58.250 From that FEMA study, we checked to see that the spectra that we generate from 322 00:24:58.250 --> 00:25:03.290 these generic shapes matches for sites in California, for example, where we 323 00:25:03.290 --> 00:25:06.170 actually know the spectra and it does a pretty good job. So we feel good about 324 00:25:06.170 --> 00:25:10.280 that. Some examples, spectra, multivariate spectra are shown here again 325 00:25:10.280 --> 00:25:13.520 for the deterministic lower limit as just an example set. 326 00:25:14.120 --> 00:25:18.020 What's important to take away from these slides is to look at the slide on the 327 00:25:18.020 --> 00:25:22.370 right and look out at periods between one and 3 seconds and see that there's a very 328 00:25:22.370 --> 00:25:29.180 large range of responses, different responses for soft sites versus stiff 329 00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:31.610 sites. It has as much as a factor of four. 330 00:25:32.150 --> 00:25:38.330 There is, in fact, a ratio of two between site class C and D, which is which was 331 00:25:38.330 --> 00:25:44.330 the real impetus for adding three additional site classes, BC, CD and D to 332 00:25:44.450 --> 00:25:47.420 create a little more finer gradation for these spectrum. 333 00:25:49.170 --> 00:25:54.600 So here's our new site classes now defined in terms of shear wave velocity, 334 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.390 and the new ones are soft, rock dense and loose sand. 335 00:26:02.310 --> 00:26:07.640 But the names are descriptive, but it's the shear wave velocities that are 336 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:13.400 important in terms of likelihood of one of these, the very stiff sites are very 337 00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:16.250 unlikely. The very soft sites are very unlikely. 338 00:26:16.250 --> 00:26:20.390 Looking at the superficial geology of California, Oregon and Washington. 339 00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:26.870 site class C, D or CD accounts for over 95% of all the sites. 340 00:26:26.870 --> 00:26:32.900 So really it's those sites that govern and those three sites site conditions C, 341 00:26:33.140 --> 00:26:38.550 CD and D, the envelope of those conditions is what we call default cyclic 342 00:26:38.600 --> 00:26:41.510 conditions. If you don't know which one you're in. 343 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:50.430 So we have now improved site specific spectra, if you will, multiple 344 00:26:50.610 --> 00:26:52.020 spectra of each site. 345 00:26:52.020 --> 00:26:57.870 We derive values of design parameters, SDS, SD1 from the best fit of that two 346 00:26:57.870 --> 00:27:00.180 period spectrum to the multi period spectrum. 347 00:27:00.180 --> 00:27:04.590 So we get rid of those glaring shortcomings we had before. 348 00:27:06.420 --> 00:27:12.960 We have new rules in Section 21 that says use 90% of the peak in the acceleration 349 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:19.050 domain to regardless of where the period might be, except not less than 0.2 350 00:27:19.050 --> 00:27:21.250 seconds in the velocity domain. 351 00:27:21.270 --> 00:27:25.980 Same concept use 90% of the peak response and the velocity domain. 352 00:27:26.340 --> 00:27:28.410 Peak response might be at 3 seconds. 353 00:27:28.710 --> 00:27:33.990 If the peak response peak velocity response is at 3 seconds, we would take 354 00:27:33.990 --> 00:27:40.260 the acceleration response at 3 seconds, multiply by three and get a surrogate for 355 00:27:40.260 --> 00:27:46.590 1 second response, which when anchored, which when a one over t shape is anchored 356 00:27:46.590 --> 00:27:51.450 to that 1 second, will give reasonable values at longer periods. 357 00:27:51.450 --> 00:27:54.180 So it's really not a 1 second coefficient anymore. 358 00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:59.520 It's a 1 second coefficient adjusted to not underestimate response at longer 359 00:27:59.520 --> 00:28:04.110 periods. An example of this fitting process is shown here for a very soft 360 00:28:04.110 --> 00:28:07.440 site. The. 361 00:28:09.210 --> 00:28:14.250 There's some specifics of the rules of Section 21.4 that are in the little 362 00:28:14.250 --> 00:28:15.660 boxes, basically. 363 00:28:15.840 --> 00:28:20.190 As I said, 90% of short periods, 90% of the velocity domain. 364 00:28:20.730 --> 00:28:26.250 The the red indicates that we're ever going to be 10% un conservative at some 365 00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:31.230 period in the velocity, in the acceleration domain and likewise in the 366 00:28:31.230 --> 00:28:34.290 acceleration domain. But we're also going to be a little conservative at the 367 00:28:34.290 --> 00:28:39.000 corners. But all in all, this is a much better fit than what we started with 368 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:45.420 before, which was horribly underestimating response at in this case 369 00:28:45.420 --> 00:28:47.460 at both acceleration and velocity domains. 370 00:28:47.850 --> 00:28:54.690 So our new two two period spectrum is based off these 90% values. 371 00:28:54.690 --> 00:29:01.770 And the intent the intent here is that it it better and best replicates the 372 00:29:01.770 --> 00:29:04.440 underlying site specific multi period spectrum. 373 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.070 As a matter of practice, we now are really encouraging that the multi period 374 00:29:08.070 --> 00:29:12.060 spectrum be used for design rather than the two period spectrum. 375 00:29:12.060 --> 00:29:15.990 But there may be certain sites outside the United States that still will be 376 00:29:15.990 --> 00:29:17.850 required to use a two period spectrum. 377 00:29:18.540 --> 00:29:19.590 Okay. So. 378 00:29:21.870 --> 00:29:27.840 Closing, I'd like to show some examples, comparisons between where we were in ASCE 379 00:29:27.840 --> 00:29:35.760 7-10, where we got to an ASCE 7-16 and where we are now in ASCE 7-22 by 380 00:29:35.760 --> 00:29:41.610 comparing two period spectra as well as showing the multi period spectrum of 381 00:29:41.610 --> 00:29:43.170 ASCE 7-22. 382 00:29:43.260 --> 00:29:48.840 I'm going to do it for four sites or Irvine and Southern California, which is 383 00:29:48.840 --> 00:29:55.710 a site controlled by probabilistic ground motions for a smaller magnitude, a not 384 00:29:55.710 --> 00:30:01.410 small but smaller than maximum magnitude 7 to 7 and a half type earthquake. 385 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:08.280 San Mateo, which is in northern California, relatively close to the San 386 00:30:08.280 --> 00:30:13.170 Andreas Fault, where the ground motions are controlled by deterministic MCE 387 00:30:13.170 --> 00:30:18.870 ground motions and a larger magnitude and type eight event on the San Andreas 388 00:30:19.410 --> 00:30:20.430 spectrum from. 389 00:30:21.600 --> 00:30:27.240 Anchorage, which is an outside outside the terminus us and a site in Memphis 390 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:31.440 which illustrates what's going on with the new ground motions in the central and 391 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:39.210 eastern U.S.. So starting with Irvine and all these plots are exactly the same 392 00:30:39.210 --> 00:30:44.400 data, the left hand plot is simply showing response period as a as a 393 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:45.660 logarithmic scale. 394 00:30:45.660 --> 00:30:49.590 And on the right, it's linear scale from 0 to 5 seconds. 395 00:30:50.220 --> 00:30:54.270 The plot on the right is what most engineers are familiar with in terms of 396 00:30:54.270 --> 00:30:55.370 looking at spectra. 397 00:30:55.380 --> 00:31:01.230 The red, the bright red is the ASCE 7-10 2 period spectrum. 398 00:31:01.230 --> 00:31:05.820 You're going to see that it is consistently lower at longer periods than 399 00:31:05.820 --> 00:31:07.980 either 16 or 22. 400 00:31:08.010 --> 00:31:12.180 For the Irvine site, they might have over adjusted a bit. 401 00:31:12.180 --> 00:31:16.830 The orange curve is a little bit higher for the 7-16 that it turns out that we 402 00:31:16.830 --> 00:31:20.580 needed in in 7-22. 403 00:31:21.270 --> 00:31:28.410 But all in all, there was good agreement between 16 and 22 and and and 7-10 was 404 00:31:28.410 --> 00:31:30.510 low by 30% or 50%. 405 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:37.140 Looking at San Mateo, which is a site controlled by stronger ground motions, 406 00:31:37.140 --> 00:31:38.430 deterministic ground motions. 407 00:31:38.430 --> 00:31:45.200 We can see a more significant underestimation of the long period 408 00:31:45.220 --> 00:31:50.580 response and also a short period of response by 7-10, that's the red curve. 409 00:31:50.580 --> 00:31:56.040 So our adjustment in 7-16, our bump factor in 7-16 solved a part of the 410 00:31:56.040 --> 00:32:00.750 problem and the rest of the problem is now solved in 7-22. 411 00:32:00.750 --> 00:32:07.620 So a significant increase in 7-22 from that of 7-10, approximately a factor of 412 00:32:07.620 --> 00:32:09.930 two at longer periods that would be. 413 00:32:11.840 --> 00:32:17.630 Mid-rise structures, commercial structures, tall, maybe some taller 414 00:32:18.860 --> 00:32:20.300 residential structures. 415 00:32:22.570 --> 00:32:23.920 Looking to Alaska. 416 00:32:24.010 --> 00:32:31.600 We derived the spectra showing here based on our generic shapes and the values of 417 00:32:31.610 --> 00:32:33.740 SS and S1 for Alaska. 418 00:32:33.760 --> 00:32:39.850 Again, emphasizing that the 7-10 version was underestimating ground motions by 419 00:32:39.850 --> 00:32:42.460 about a factor of two and last. 420 00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:47.740 Looking at central and eastern United States, we see a very different shape to 421 00:32:47.740 --> 00:32:52.690 the spectrum. The the site specific multi period response spectrum, which are the 422 00:32:52.690 --> 00:32:56.530 diamonds in the central and eastern United States. 423 00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:02.430 Even for softer sites, the spectrum peaks at ten or 20 hertz. 424 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.490 It does not peak at 0.2 seconds or 0.5 seconds. 425 00:33:07.510 --> 00:33:12.670 We we didn't want to end up designing for peak response at ten or 20 hertz. 426 00:33:12.670 --> 00:33:14.680 So the code decided that. 427 00:33:16.560 --> 00:33:18.990 Any other code decided that the. 428 00:33:20.100 --> 00:33:28.050 Limit on determining short period accelerations would be based on periods, 429 00:33:28.050 --> 00:33:30.720 not less, not less than 0.2 seconds. 430 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.160 So you'll see that there's a peak sticking up there quite a ways up. 431 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.520 In fact, we avoided the peak. 432 00:33:37.530 --> 00:33:40.290 We have very similar ground motions to what we had before. 433 00:33:40.290 --> 00:33:45.510 Frankly, in the central and eastern United States, word of caution would be 434 00:33:45.510 --> 00:33:50.370 here that this is fine for building design might not be so. 435 00:33:52.670 --> 00:33:57.500 Appropriate for looking at the at the response of high frequency equipment in 436 00:33:57.500 --> 00:33:58.910 the structure, for example. 437 00:33:59.540 --> 00:34:02.090 So we're probably underestimating demands on equipment. 438 00:34:02.940 --> 00:34:04.530 But fine for design. 439 00:34:04.530 --> 00:34:07.020 Building design. So in conclusion. 440 00:34:07.900 --> 00:34:11.860 Fine. As usual, we get the ground motions from the websites. 441 00:34:11.860 --> 00:34:16.810 We can get spectra now from the websites as well as design parameters. 442 00:34:17.410 --> 00:34:22.240 The procedures of the off procedures of WebTV remain largely the same. 443 00:34:22.390 --> 00:34:27.810 There was a small change at the at the very end of the code cycle that said you 444 00:34:27.820 --> 00:34:33.040 you could get ah, derive The values of SDS. 445 00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:39.580 SD1 directly from your the multi period response spectrum of the site of interest 446 00:34:39.580 --> 00:34:42.790 rather than using the values provided by the website. 447 00:34:42.850 --> 00:34:45.400 In case you wanted to get a little finer. 448 00:34:46.580 --> 00:34:51.170 Measure of the design parameters at the specific period of your structure and the 449 00:34:51.170 --> 00:34:52.670 multi period response spectra. 450 00:34:53.030 --> 00:34:55.370 Procedures of Chapter 12 remain the same. 451 00:34:55.730 --> 00:35:03.100 So with that, I will stop sharing my screen and turn it over to Nico 452 00:35:03.110 --> 00:35:06.470 Luco who will tell us about the. 453 00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:12.130 Mm hmm. 454 00:35:14.610 --> 00:35:16.080 Thank you, Charlie. 455 00:35:18.450 --> 00:35:21.510 Thanks to BSSC for organizing this. 456 00:35:22.830 --> 00:35:24.240 All right. 457 00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:31.450 All right. So I am going to talk about see, here's some 458 00:35:31.450 --> 00:35:38.650 examples of the changes, the numerical changes to the ground motion 459 00:35:38.650 --> 00:35:45.220 values that result from these updates that Charlie has talked about. 460 00:35:45.230 --> 00:35:52.390 And I'll try to dig into those changes and dissect what caused those changes for 461 00:35:52.390 --> 00:35:54.040 different locations. 462 00:35:56.030 --> 00:36:03.890 So as an outline, I'm showing here that sections of the commentary to Chapter 22 463 00:36:03.890 --> 00:36:10.460 of the 2020 NEHRP provisions, I would refer to that basically I'll be giving a 464 00:36:10.460 --> 00:36:17.210 short version presentation of much more information that you can get there. 465 00:36:17.870 --> 00:36:22.460 So the first two sections of that commentary talk about at least 466 00:36:22.460 --> 00:36:28.710 conceptually modifications to the use of our but also G promotions. 467 00:36:28.730 --> 00:36:35.960 First from Project 17 recommendations and I'll go over those again just to clarify 468 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:43.190 which what those are and also the modifications from the 2018 USGS National 469 00:36:43.190 --> 00:36:49.460 Seismic Hazard Update, which was talked about in more depth in a previous 470 00:36:50.390 --> 00:36:58.220 webinar. Then I will give some of the numerical examples of changes in our 471 00:36:58.220 --> 00:36:59.420 values at least. 472 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:01.730 These next three sections. 473 00:37:01.730 --> 00:37:08.320 Talk a little bit more about how images of our emotions are derived, how our 474 00:37:10.370 --> 00:37:16.080 emotions are derived, and also the long period of transition maps. 475 00:37:16.130 --> 00:37:18.500 I won't cover that in this presentation. 476 00:37:19.500 --> 00:37:21.880 Here's a little bit about that from CB. 477 00:37:22.250 --> 00:37:26.870 And then lastly, I'll talk about just elaborating on what Charlie mentioned, 478 00:37:26.870 --> 00:37:34.040 that USGS seismic design, geo database, web service that goes along with it. 479 00:37:37.020 --> 00:37:42.780 All right. So to start first with the modifications to design promotions that 480 00:37:42.780 --> 00:37:50.160 are resulting from updates to the USGS national seismic hazard model for 481 00:37:50.190 --> 00:37:57.630 2018. So as I talked more about these four changes, here is this 482 00:37:57.630 --> 00:38:04.740 2018 USGS model incorporates the East motion models that are new. 483 00:38:04.740 --> 00:38:09.660 And really using those new ground motion models is what allowed us to produce 484 00:38:09.660 --> 00:38:16.710 multiple spectra for multiple site classes, unlike the previous 485 00:38:16.710 --> 00:38:20.550 generation of ground motion models for the East. 486 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:27.660 The second item here is incorporating deep sedimentary basin effects, at least 487 00:38:27.660 --> 00:38:33.690 in Los Angeles, Seattle, San Francisco and Salt Lake City areas. 488 00:38:33.700 --> 00:38:38.610 So these are areas where we had good information about bass and depths, and we 489 00:38:38.610 --> 00:38:44.610 think that the ocean models available do a reasonable job at estimating what the 490 00:38:44.610 --> 00:38:48.180 effects of those bass and depths are. 491 00:38:49.110 --> 00:38:52.650 In particular, this doesn't affect short period motions, but you will see in 492 00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:56.340 effect 1/2 and beyond motions. 493 00:38:56.670 --> 00:39:00.720 Thirdly, here, it's a minor update, but we always want to make sure that we're 494 00:39:01.140 --> 00:39:06.990 looking at the earthquakes that have occurred up to the current time, because 495 00:39:06.990 --> 00:39:12.390 we use those earthquakes to think about what could occur in the future, 496 00:39:12.390 --> 00:39:16.770 especially off the faults that we have more information on. 497 00:39:17.300 --> 00:39:24.060 And the fourth item here, then, relatively minor changes to the weighting 498 00:39:24.060 --> 00:39:27.050 of ground motion models in the western U.S. 499 00:39:27.060 --> 00:39:31.800 And again, this was really done because some of the motion models wouldn't allow 500 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:37.170 us to get the full multi period response vector for different classes that we 501 00:39:37.170 --> 00:39:39.520 wanted. All right. 502 00:39:39.520 --> 00:39:46.000 So those are the USGS triggered changes, Project 17, which you heard a little bit 503 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:53.800 about and talked about in a previous webinar, how do we take the 504 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:59.400 USGS science and translate that into new design spectrum and design ground 505 00:39:59.410 --> 00:40:05.050 motions? So the Project 17 recommendations were modifications to 506 00:40:05.080 --> 00:40:06.310 slight class effects. 507 00:40:06.350 --> 00:40:07.720 You heard that from Charlie. 508 00:40:07.720 --> 00:40:14.440 But instead of using site coefficients to account for soil effects or effectively 509 00:40:14.770 --> 00:40:21.490 taking directly from USGS hazard results that are already for different site 510 00:40:21.490 --> 00:40:29.470 classes, the second modification Charlie talked about was for at least for systems 511 00:40:29.470 --> 00:40:36.340 and of one that those are defined longer just as values at 0.2 second and 1/2. 512 00:40:36.340 --> 00:40:42.820 But they look more broadly at the multi period spectrum to come up with a best 513 00:40:42.820 --> 00:40:44.450 fit values. 514 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.420 The third on this list Charlie mentioned, I will go to a little bit more detail on 515 00:40:49.420 --> 00:40:54.820 the third and fourth. And this is because Charlie didn't have time to set 516 00:40:54.830 --> 00:40:58.630 deterministic caps on otherwise probabilistic motions. 517 00:40:58.630 --> 00:41:01.660 There's just a little change in how we do that. 518 00:41:01.690 --> 00:41:05.500 And then I'll describe and then maximum direction scale factors. 519 00:41:05.650 --> 00:41:13.060 So what most of the motion models just give is geometric, mean or immediate, an 520 00:41:13.060 --> 00:41:20.170 average horizontal motion for provisions, ASCE 7, etc. 521 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:25.180 There's a maximum spectral acceleration or horizontal that's used. 522 00:41:25.180 --> 00:41:27.760 And so we have factors to go between the two. 523 00:41:28.690 --> 00:41:33.700 So starting with that last one, first is new maximum interaction scale factors. 524 00:41:33.700 --> 00:41:41.510 We actually knew of four in the cycle that produced 2015 meter 525 00:41:41.590 --> 00:41:47.620 provisions and there was a resource paper they're shown here that talked about 526 00:41:47.620 --> 00:41:54.100 these updated maximum response scale factors where they come from different 527 00:41:54.100 --> 00:41:56.180 than the previous is, etc. 528 00:41:57.610 --> 00:42:05.530 To show those numerically, here's a plot spectral periods, the x axis and x max 529 00:42:05.620 --> 00:42:13.000 scale nice direction scale factor on the y axis and the blue are the factors that 530 00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:17.040 were being used since 2009 here. 531 00:42:17.090 --> 00:42:22.390 Provisions as E 17 are also used in C seven. 532 00:42:22.390 --> 00:42:29.080 Six in green are extracts and scale factors that come from a study that was 533 00:42:29.080 --> 00:42:36.950 part of the two program and published by Charlie and Baker in a couple 534 00:42:36.950 --> 00:42:38.110 of publications. 535 00:42:38.110 --> 00:42:39.370 That's the Green Line. 536 00:42:39.520 --> 00:42:46.360 And what we did both in this research paper and for 29 year provisions is is 537 00:42:46.600 --> 00:42:53.080 a smoothing essentially of site and beaker extraction scale factors. 538 00:42:53.080 --> 00:43:00.030 And you can see from that at 0.2 seconds down here that and going from 1.1 to 1.2. 539 00:43:00.040 --> 00:43:08.020 So about a 10% increase at 1/2 going down from 1.3 to 1.25, just about a 540 00:43:08.020 --> 00:43:09.490 5% decrease. 541 00:43:09.490 --> 00:43:15.430 But at longer periods, if you were doing site specifics and looking at longer 542 00:43:15.430 --> 00:43:20.800 periods in previous codes, those extraction scale factors made a big 543 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.300 difference. And they were important. 544 00:43:22.300 --> 00:43:27.610 So important to include the new factors now with the multi period spectrum. 545 00:43:30.140 --> 00:43:34.370 Sorry. So now deterministic caps. 546 00:43:34.370 --> 00:43:39.680 So this is essentially in a nutshell the change that was made to the deterministic 547 00:43:40.070 --> 00:43:46.610 caps. This is a section from Chapter 21, the site specific section, which again is 548 00:43:46.610 --> 00:43:53.460 what really follows in going from its national seismic hazard model to these 549 00:43:54.110 --> 00:43:56.680 are g motions. 550 00:43:56.690 --> 00:44:01.790 So as you can see here, really what changes the change in terminology, but an 551 00:44:01.790 --> 00:44:06.410 important change in terminology from characteristic earthquakes to scenario 552 00:44:06.410 --> 00:44:14.000 earthquakes. Characteristic earthquakes have certain definition in the seismology 553 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:19.820 community. And really there's a move away from defining characteristics of 554 00:44:19.820 --> 00:44:26.420 earthquakes. For example, our USGS model, California, part of that model no longer 555 00:44:26.420 --> 00:44:28.850 defines characteristic earthquakes. 556 00:44:28.850 --> 00:44:30.650 That was an issue we had to resolve. 557 00:44:31.550 --> 00:44:36.830 And the other change here is just removing this active word from faults. 558 00:44:37.550 --> 00:44:41.870 That was always a bit subjective in past cycles. 559 00:44:41.870 --> 00:44:47.830 We came up with some rules for looking at that with two senses that follow. 560 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:55.790 We think we improved the active faults, so that's the first sentence here. 561 00:44:55.790 --> 00:44:59.670 Additional sentence says that these scenario earthquakes come from the 562 00:44:59.690 --> 00:45:06.020 aggregation or disaggregation of of the probabilistic ground motions, the 563 00:45:06.020 --> 00:45:08.240 spectral accelerations at each period. 564 00:45:08.660 --> 00:45:12.450 So these scenario earthquakes are now coming from disaggregation, energy 565 00:45:12.500 --> 00:45:18.050 aggregation. We're moving towards the term this aggregation, this predated 566 00:45:18.050 --> 00:45:23.990 that. And then the second sentence here, it says the scenario, earthquakes that 567 00:45:23.990 --> 00:45:29.870 contribute 10%, less than 10% of the largest contribution to the hazard at 568 00:45:29.870 --> 00:45:31.790 each period. So be ignored. 569 00:45:31.790 --> 00:45:37.730 And that's basically a way of identifying faults that aren't very active and they 570 00:45:37.730 --> 00:45:40.520 don't contribute to the hazard. 571 00:45:40.520 --> 00:45:47.240 And that's a more quantitative way to define those relatively inactive faults. 572 00:45:48.140 --> 00:45:55.550 So here's a quick example table again from the chapter is My Feet from chapter 573 00:45:55.550 --> 00:46:00.200 20 and the commentary of that chapter. 574 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:06.860 And so we've got different spectral periods of just this is showing a snippet 575 00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:12.890 but from point 2 to 1 second and these are showing the scenario earthquakes that 576 00:46:12.890 --> 00:46:15.950 result from disaggregation. 577 00:46:16.190 --> 00:46:19.940 So this is San Jose, California site. 578 00:46:20.030 --> 00:46:25.610 So this aggregation is telling us there's contributions to the hazard from, hey, 579 00:46:25.610 --> 00:46:29.600 we're in Calaveras, San Andreas and also Silver Creek. 580 00:46:30.110 --> 00:46:34.310 You can see the magnitudes here, which can change a little bit with spectral 581 00:46:34.310 --> 00:46:41.050 period and the amount of contribution these different earthquake faults have. 582 00:46:41.120 --> 00:46:45.350 Right. Hayward being the largest that you could see here is the contribution to the 583 00:46:45.350 --> 00:46:51.110 hazard from Silver Creek is pretty small and it's less than 10% of the biggest 584 00:46:51.110 --> 00:46:55.010 contribution in these 50% ish contribution. 585 00:46:55.010 --> 00:46:57.110 So these are all less than 5%. 586 00:46:57.110 --> 00:47:01.640 And therefore, Hart, Silver Creek would be considered inactive and wouldn't be 587 00:47:01.970 --> 00:47:05.150 used for deterministic calculation. 588 00:47:05.600 --> 00:47:11.840 And that can have a big impact on the motions because in a probabilistic sense, 589 00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.680 Silver Creek doesn't matter too much if you include it or not because it's 590 00:47:15.680 --> 00:47:17.270 relatively inactive. 591 00:47:17.270 --> 00:47:21.890 But if you're deterministically, calculating promotion, saying I'm not 592 00:47:21.890 --> 00:47:27.220 considering how active the fault is, whether you include Silver Creek or can 593 00:47:27.230 --> 00:47:28.490 make a big difference. 594 00:47:29.830 --> 00:47:36.330 Okay. So after now through conceptually, those changes that occurred from both 595 00:47:36.350 --> 00:47:44.060 Project 17 recommendations and the USGS 2018 National Seismic Hazard Update, I'll 596 00:47:44.060 --> 00:47:46.400 talk about this third bullet here. 597 00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:51.110 Some example of changes to the values of our ground. 598 00:47:51.620 --> 00:47:54.380 At least that's all we've got time for today. 599 00:47:55.010 --> 00:48:01.100 So, for example, examples started with the 2009 New Year provisions, 600 00:48:02.630 --> 00:48:10.280 Charlie, that put together this list of 34 cities across the US that are high 601 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:15.080 hazard or high risk in a sense of high populations. 602 00:48:15.560 --> 00:48:19.460 So you can see the Southern California sites here, but we also have sites in 603 00:48:19.460 --> 00:48:24.440 Northern California at the Pacific Northwest, Intermountain West and central 604 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.120 and eastern US. 605 00:48:27.140 --> 00:48:34.370 So if you look in the commentary of the Chapter 20 commentary of the NEHRP 2020 606 00:48:34.370 --> 00:48:37.550 provisions, you'll see tables like this. 607 00:48:37.550 --> 00:48:41.450 And this is, again, just showing part of that table for the Southern California 608 00:48:41.450 --> 00:48:43.910 sites that show. 609 00:48:44.380 --> 00:48:49.300 So those are for the reference site condition, which is now called B.C. 610 00:48:49.310 --> 00:48:56.080 site class and for SMEs in this case for the default site class that used to be 611 00:48:56.090 --> 00:49:04.090 site, class D now is looking across a class several times around site 612 00:49:04.170 --> 00:49:10.120 class. So it showed values for HSC 710 just to give some perspective. 613 00:49:10.130 --> 00:49:16.380 And then of course it's 7-16 so we can look at the changes to the 2020 NEHRP 614 00:49:16.380 --> 00:49:23.390 provisions. So you'll find tables of these, but we also have plots like this. 615 00:49:23.390 --> 00:49:31.130 So just to talk through these on the left is applied to shows that ASCE 7-10 times 616 00:49:31.130 --> 00:49:37.700 five is the short period for the default site class values versus ASCE 7-16 617 00:49:38.570 --> 00:49:46.040 values for these 34 different cities across the US, that's the one that 618 00:49:46.700 --> 00:49:51.290 is solid. Here in the dashed line is a plus or -15% difference. 619 00:49:51.650 --> 00:49:52.940 Same plot, right? 620 00:49:52.940 --> 00:50:00.710 Just showing as 716 on the x axis versus the 2020 near provisions on the one. 621 00:50:01.040 --> 00:50:08.030 And so here, for example, looking at the left plot, you can see then when we went 622 00:50:08.030 --> 00:50:15.860 from 7-10 to 7-16, there were changes greater than 15% and 15% is a helpful 623 00:50:15.860 --> 00:50:21.110 number to look at. And smaller changes can occur for lots of small changes 624 00:50:21.410 --> 00:50:28.520 adding up, but around 15% or 20%, there's something significant that's that's a 625 00:50:28.520 --> 00:50:31.160 change that's changing the values. 626 00:50:31.160 --> 00:50:38.540 So about 20 of the 34 locations change, more than 15% going from seven, ten, 627 00:50:38.900 --> 00:50:41.150 seven, 16 on the right. 628 00:50:41.150 --> 00:50:48.290 You can tell there aren't many changes, more than 15% going from 7-16 to the 629 00:50:48.290 --> 00:50:53.180 2020 NEHRP provisions, at least in terms of this sub RMS value. 630 00:50:53.600 --> 00:50:59.090 So once we do see this is for Vallejo, there's a 34% increase, that's a big 631 00:50:59.210 --> 00:51:04.820 increase. And this is mostly due to that change in the definition of deterministic 632 00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:09.860 caps. Really, that case is the definition of active. 633 00:51:09.860 --> 00:51:14.660 The one we were using before really didn't recognize some additional data 634 00:51:14.870 --> 00:51:22.460 that USGS uses from GPS measurements, and the new definition helps with that. 635 00:51:23.090 --> 00:51:28.190 Sacramento is another place where it changes about 30%, relatively small 636 00:51:28.190 --> 00:51:32.540 values comparatively, but pretty significant changes there. 637 00:51:32.540 --> 00:51:38.060 And this is the case where the changes really come mostly from the project 17 638 00:51:38.060 --> 00:51:42.350 changes and side class effects, where we go from using site coefficients to 639 00:51:42.350 --> 00:51:49.190 directly using hazard results from the USGS for site class like say, class D. 640 00:51:50.270 --> 00:51:55.280 And then this is a decrease, significant decrease. 641 00:51:55.460 --> 00:52:00.650 This one is caused in part by the USGS use of the east, but also the C class 642 00:52:00.650 --> 00:52:07.040 effects using not using CI coefficients that we're actually up for the west but 643 00:52:07.040 --> 00:52:14.260 instead using results for different CI classes calculated by USGS and their 644 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.700 hazard modeling. All right. 645 00:52:17.020 --> 00:52:23.750 This is a similar figure I'll go through more quickly here just for the sub one. 646 00:52:23.750 --> 00:52:27.730 So the 1/2 value so you can see from A.D. 647 00:52:27.740 --> 00:52:28.790 710 to C. 648 00:52:30.160 --> 00:52:31.930 There's a big difference in here. 649 00:52:31.930 --> 00:52:37.000 This plot, we've included this 1.5 multiplier that Charlie mentioned that 650 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:42.190 was trying to account for this recognition that at longer periods for at 651 00:52:42.190 --> 00:52:48.220 least four high hazard sites, higher levels here, and softer site classes like 652 00:52:48.220 --> 00:52:53.920 the default that we were previously underestimating, the design promotion 653 00:52:54.100 --> 00:53:01.040 values. And then on the right, you can see the changes from 716 to the 2020 654 00:53:01.210 --> 00:53:02.260 NEHRP provisions. 655 00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:07.710 More values are changing is the San Bernardino. 656 00:53:07.720 --> 00:53:13.030 These are mostly the definition of and one that looks more broadly across multi 657 00:53:13.030 --> 00:53:19.870 period spectrum and deterministic capping still has an effect here but also based 658 00:53:19.870 --> 00:53:21.040 on effects in this area. 659 00:53:21.040 --> 00:53:26.380 Start to factor in here for 1/2 or as they didn't on the previous slide for 660 00:53:26.380 --> 00:53:33.250 short periods and then these eastern a lot of these are non western sites with 661 00:53:33.250 --> 00:53:34.480 lower hazard. 662 00:53:34.510 --> 00:53:38.470 These locations mostly do the site class effects and some of those are going to be 663 00:53:38.470 --> 00:53:44.680 because we're now have effectively we have site modifications that are specific 664 00:53:44.680 --> 00:53:45.520 to the east. 665 00:53:47.160 --> 00:53:47.670 All right. 666 00:53:48.540 --> 00:53:51.450 Quickly to those are looking at the ground motion values. 667 00:53:51.450 --> 00:53:57.660 You could also look at how seismic design category changes to get a broader view of 668 00:53:57.660 --> 00:53:59.570 the impact of all these changes. 669 00:53:59.580 --> 00:54:05.370 So this is, again, is Chapter 22 commentary at least part of that table 670 00:54:05.370 --> 00:54:12.720 that shows that the seismic design category is from 710 to 16, 2020 dinner 671 00:54:12.720 --> 00:54:15.680 provisions. So that's a lot of this. 672 00:54:16.680 --> 00:54:21.630 There aren't changes from seven, 10 to 16 over all. 673 00:54:21.930 --> 00:54:28.410 Seismic design can decrease that to 34 locations and not many changes. 674 00:54:28.410 --> 00:54:34.110 And those even those changes were seismic design category E D maybe not the most 675 00:54:34.110 --> 00:54:35.610 significant impact. 676 00:54:35.610 --> 00:54:41.880 And then 4c7 16 to 2020 NEHRP provisions, the seismic design category increased 677 00:54:42.330 --> 00:54:48.600 four of the 34 locations from D and that's such a significant impact. 678 00:54:48.600 --> 00:54:52.680 And these were mostly due to deterministic capping and and phasing 679 00:54:52.680 --> 00:54:57.390 effects. And here are maps of seismic design category. 680 00:54:57.390 --> 00:55:01.530 So you could do the same thing essentially using the oceans, the short 681 00:55:01.530 --> 00:55:08.100 period. And the 1/2 you could map seismic design, category four on the left, 8716 682 00:55:08.100 --> 00:55:12.870 on the right, the 2020 NEHRP provisions, they're broadly similar. 683 00:55:12.870 --> 00:55:17.940 You can already see that this plot focuses on what are those areas where 684 00:55:17.940 --> 00:55:21.300 there are changes in the seismic design category. 685 00:55:21.300 --> 00:55:25.210 So you could see some slivers of places where probably not a big change in that 686 00:55:25.290 --> 00:55:31.890 motion. But that didn't change, did flip from one across the threshold, from one 687 00:55:31.890 --> 00:55:37.050 seismic design category to another, and then some a little bit deeper regions as 688 00:55:37.050 --> 00:55:44.460 well. So to summarize these numerical changes, examples of 689 00:55:44.460 --> 00:55:50.340 numerical changes for default site conditions, at least the short periods of 690 00:55:50.790 --> 00:55:57.330 motion values, they changed by less than 50%, 31 of the 34 locations, almost all 691 00:55:57.330 --> 00:56:03.330 of them for the 1/2 as one for default site conditions. 692 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:09.780 They changed less than this 15% or interest in at 23 of the 34 locations. 693 00:56:09.780 --> 00:56:12.150 So that's a two thirds. 694 00:56:12.150 --> 00:56:18.900 But so there were some more significant more sites that had changes at at 1/2. 695 00:56:18.900 --> 00:56:23.130 And again, that's not too surprising because we're really moving towards this 696 00:56:23.130 --> 00:56:27.720 multi period response spectrum because of issues we saw longer periods in the past 697 00:56:28.260 --> 00:56:33.660 and then the seismic design changes just then that four of the 34 locations and 698 00:56:33.660 --> 00:56:41.490 again from site class D so most of these changes in the project 17 modifications 699 00:56:41.490 --> 00:56:46.860 to site class effects or deterministic cap caps, but some of the other ones are 700 00:56:47.550 --> 00:56:54.960 caused by other projects 17 modifications or the 2018 USGS updates, particularly 701 00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:59.580 the incorporation of baseline effects in the most recent USGS model. 702 00:56:59.910 --> 00:57:03.060 So this gives us some examples of the changes. 703 00:57:03.060 --> 00:57:08.430 You could look at changes for other side classes at other locations by using the 704 00:57:08.430 --> 00:57:14.990 USGS seismic design, web services and also a PSC tool that's built on those Web 705 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:21.110 services. So I'll spend a few minutes showing those before we turn over to KB. 706 00:57:21.270 --> 00:57:27.450 Kraus So let's see the last bullet here now. 707 00:57:29.340 --> 00:57:31.800 So Charlie referenced the U.S. 708 00:57:32.220 --> 00:57:34.530 seismic design database. 709 00:57:34.830 --> 00:57:36.210 What is that exactly? 710 00:57:36.870 --> 00:57:44.790 It's an archive of gridded motion values and we archive at USGS system 711 00:57:44.790 --> 00:57:50.940 called Science Base, which is effectively how we publish data, but the data can be 712 00:57:50.940 --> 00:57:57.150 downloaded from here archives somewhere else by the BSSC in the ASCE so that we 713 00:57:57.150 --> 00:57:59.400 make sure it just goes away. 714 00:57:59.520 --> 00:58:05.910 You still have this this data, and so it's sort of a web page interface and 715 00:58:05.910 --> 00:58:10.740 it's just showing one example of files like here you can download files for the 716 00:58:11.460 --> 00:58:17.880 United States, the risk targeted motions, also the deterministic 84 percentile 717 00:58:18.150 --> 00:58:25.330 motions. This is for site class A, these first two and then site class B and this 718 00:58:25.350 --> 00:58:31.830 list goes on through all the site classes, all of the states and 719 00:58:31.830 --> 00:58:33.970 territories of the United States. 720 00:58:33.970 --> 00:58:36.790 So there's a lot of data on this this site. 721 00:58:36.810 --> 00:58:44.010 This is just three of 100 hundreds of files. 722 00:58:45.210 --> 00:58:49.530 And really quick, if you happen to be going to the 12th National Conference on 723 00:58:49.530 --> 00:58:54.690 Earthquake Engineering, interested in hearing more about the US seismic design 724 00:58:54.990 --> 00:59:00.480 database is there's a short paper in that conference and there'll be a presentation 725 00:59:01.380 --> 00:59:02.460 as well on that. 726 00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:09.030 So that data we publish it so that static and people have access to it. 727 00:59:09.030 --> 00:59:12.810 But really it's sort of cumbersome to deal with these large files that have 728 00:59:13.170 --> 00:59:19.680 values that cover all the 48 states and have 600,000 points in them, large data 729 00:59:19.680 --> 00:59:26.250 files. So it's really this web service like you do with current practice, 8716 730 00:59:26.790 --> 00:59:32.580 that you use or as I'll show in the next slide, a more user friendly interface to 731 00:59:32.580 --> 00:59:38.280 this. But yes, yes, web service, the inputs are basically latitude, longitude 732 00:59:38.460 --> 00:59:39.660 and site class. 733 00:59:40.260 --> 00:59:48.150 So the error really works is in a URL you enter latitude longitude site class, 734 00:59:48.150 --> 00:59:52.760 also risk category because this will return seismic design category and 735 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:53.970 optional title. 736 00:59:53.970 --> 00:59:57.480 And this is an example of the response that you get back, right? 737 00:59:57.630 --> 01:00:01.350 It's readable but not very user friendly. 738 01:00:01.350 --> 01:00:08.820 No, no plots because these Web services are really intended to be an engine 739 01:00:08.820 --> 01:00:11.940 behind a more user friendly interface. 740 01:00:11.940 --> 01:00:17.190 So these provide all the values that you need, in some cases, some deeper values 741 01:00:17.190 --> 01:00:21.090 or component values that you might not interface. 742 01:00:21.660 --> 01:00:27.810 But something like this basic tool for the 2020 NEHRP provisions would be 743 01:00:27.810 --> 01:00:33.780 something that most users would go through to access these new design 744 01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:40.580 promotions. ASCE 7-22 Now some version of this is as well, and then you enter 745 01:00:40.590 --> 01:00:45.320 latitude, longitude and site class and it gives back these parameters like SMS and 746 01:00:45.520 --> 01:00:51.210 and one that we've been talking about as well as some plots like multi period 747 01:00:51.210 --> 01:00:52.410 design spectrum. 748 01:00:52.680 --> 01:00:56.160 So a little bit more user friendly. 749 01:00:57.650 --> 01:01:05.050 Okay. And so here I'll just start to close here by mentioning that a lot of 750 01:01:05.110 --> 01:01:11.020 what I've talked about is available through this portal that we've created. 751 01:01:11.020 --> 01:01:18.520 So this address at the top, this digital object identifier, is something that we 752 01:01:18.520 --> 01:01:19.540 don't change. 753 01:01:19.540 --> 01:01:24.040 And that's helpful because sometimes the USGS Web addresses will change. 754 01:01:24.130 --> 01:01:28.480 It's not in our control, but this deal, I will not change. 755 01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:34.410 That's what you'll find in the year 2020 NEHRP provision also in ASCE 7-22 and 756 01:01:34.420 --> 01:01:41.960 this. This deal brought you to a website that we can make sure is up to date. 757 01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:48.530 And so for the 2020 NEHRP positions this website gives, you example the tool, the 758 01:01:48.530 --> 01:01:53.570 web interface for getting at the ground motion values so that this tool that we 759 01:01:53.570 --> 01:01:58.580 just looked at also gives you the Web service link here. 760 01:01:58.930 --> 01:02:04.100 It gives you a link to maps which are really in there are some maps in the 761 01:02:04.580 --> 01:02:10.910 provisions just for SMEs and some one for default site classes, some additional 762 01:02:10.910 --> 01:02:14.120 maps that we're interested in adding. 763 01:02:14.120 --> 01:02:19.370 We started to you will continue that and then the data itself that US seismic 764 01:02:19.370 --> 01:02:25.190 design geo database has a permanent location as well. 765 01:02:27.830 --> 01:02:27.940 Well. 766 01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:30.570 Thanks for listening. 767 01:02:30.610 --> 01:02:32.260 Here's my contact info. 768 01:02:32.290 --> 01:02:35.290 I do hope we have a little time for questions at the end, but now I'll turn 769 01:02:35.290 --> 01:02:37.330 it over to C.B. 770 01:02:37.330 --> 01:02:39.640 Crouse and I will stop sharing. 771 01:02:40.900 --> 01:02:44.400 So, while C.B. is preparing his slides to let everyone know. 772 01:02:44.410 --> 01:02:46.900 We will try to answer all the questions in the end. 773 01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:49.630 So please make sure to type in your questions now. 774 01:02:49.660 --> 01:02:50.230 Thank you. 775 01:02:52.930 --> 01:02:54.370 Thank you. Charlie. 776 01:02:54.400 --> 01:03:00.950 Nico. You can all see my screen I hope? 777 01:03:02.030 --> 01:03:02.990 Yes, we can. Yep. 778 01:03:03.580 --> 01:03:07.850 Okay. Well, my presentation is really a follow on to Charlie's, and I'll be 779 01:03:07.850 --> 01:03:13.520 covering three additional provisions in ground motion that he didn't cover. 780 01:03:16.830 --> 01:03:21.060 And my slides are not advancing for some reason. 781 01:03:30.610 --> 01:03:32.950 Excuse me. I'm not sure what's happening. 782 01:03:45.560 --> 01:03:47.170 Jq. I don't know what's going on. 783 01:03:47.180 --> 01:03:49.190 It's. The slides aren't advancing. 784 01:03:49.550 --> 01:03:50.960 Something's happened. 785 01:03:51.140 --> 01:03:54.020 Yeah. So do you want to stop sharing and share? 786 01:03:54.050 --> 01:04:00.100 Sometimes I don't work. Okay. 787 01:04:01.180 --> 01:04:02.570 Let's try it again. 788 01:04:11.180 --> 01:04:12.770 Let's see if they advance. 789 01:04:15.850 --> 01:04:17.530 No, they're not advancing. 790 01:04:22.990 --> 01:04:26.590 So how about let me open up share from my side? 791 01:04:33.160 --> 01:04:33.970 Oh, wait a minute. 792 01:04:35.560 --> 01:04:37.330 For some reason, I was using a down here. 793 01:04:37.330 --> 01:04:38.620 I'll have to use my. 794 01:04:39.750 --> 01:04:44.910 By curfew. And now, unless you took over the screen, I can advance the slides, it 795 01:04:44.910 --> 01:04:45.570 looks like. 796 01:04:45.750 --> 01:04:48.450 Yeah. Please go ahead. See, we can see the cover, too. 797 01:04:48.450 --> 01:04:48.680 Yeah. 798 01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:50.760 I don't know what happened down here. 799 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:55.830 I was working when I was doing this before OC So like I said, this is really 800 01:04:55.830 --> 01:04:58.920 a follow up to Charlie's presentation. 801 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:03.870 And the first thing I'm going to talk about is the revisions to the maximum 802 01:05:03.870 --> 01:05:09.720 considered earthquake geometric mean ground acceleration and Section 21.5. 803 01:05:10.380 --> 01:05:14.130 That's going to be followed by revisions to the vertical ground motion in section 804 01:05:14.130 --> 01:05:19.680 11.9. And lastly, the new provisions for determining the site class and 805 01:05:19.680 --> 01:05:24.720 corresponding response spectrum when shear wave velocity measurements are not 806 01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:26.010 made at a site. 807 01:05:27.620 --> 01:05:31.760 So first the revisions to the GP ground acceleration. 808 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:40.340 Recall that in section 11 .8.3 in RC 716, this PGA was defined 809 01:05:40.340 --> 01:05:46.940 by the simple equation where the F sub PGA was a site coefficient and PGA was 810 01:05:46.940 --> 01:05:53.990 the map PGA for an average shear velocity of 760 meters per second, and in section 811 01:05:53.990 --> 01:06:01.760 21.5.2 the deterministic lower limit, MSI PGA was set at 0.5 times 812 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.280 the site coefficient FS of PGA. 813 01:06:07.080 --> 01:06:12.840 Now in ASCE 7-22 PSI coefficients were eliminated due to the switch to the multi 814 01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:17.100 period response vector for the eight PSI classes, as Charlie had mentioned. 815 01:06:18.090 --> 01:06:25.590 And this meant that the PGA in section 11 .8.3 is now obtained directly 816 01:06:25.590 --> 01:06:33.360 from the USGS seismic design database or another more user friendly, such as 817 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:38.490 the ASCE 7 Data Access Tool or the BSSC tool. 818 01:06:40.580 --> 01:06:46.490 And in Chapter 21, the deterministic lower limit of this parameter is provided 819 01:06:46.490 --> 01:06:52.100 in the bottom row of table 21.2, dash one for the applicable site class. 820 01:06:52.100 --> 01:06:56.300 And this is the bottom row of the table that Charlie presented in his 821 01:06:56.300 --> 01:07:03.270 presentation. There were other revisions to Section 822 01:07:03.270 --> 01:07:10.200 21.5 and in particular how the deterministic PGA was determined. 823 01:07:12.420 --> 01:07:17.730 The first change was notational, where the words characteristic earthquakes were 824 01:07:17.730 --> 01:07:19.580 replaced with scenario earthquakes. 825 01:07:19.590 --> 01:07:26.730 As Nico mentioned in his presentation, and the procedure is identical to the one 826 01:07:26.730 --> 01:07:30.750 Nico presented for the multi period response vector and namely that the 827 01:07:30.750 --> 01:07:35.160 scenario earthquakes are determined from the disaggregation of the probabilistic 828 01:07:35.430 --> 01:07:40.410 mce PGA with a 2% and 50 year exceedance probability. 829 01:07:41.610 --> 01:07:45.990 So from this the aggregation one would obtain the mean magnitude and mean 830 01:07:45.990 --> 01:07:50.400 rupture distance for each fault, and these parameters would define the 831 01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:52.230 scenario earthquake for the fault. 832 01:07:53.550 --> 01:07:58.620 Then, as Nico explained, those scenarios contributing less than 10% of the largest 833 01:07:58.620 --> 01:08:00.510 contributor are ignored. 834 01:08:01.700 --> 01:08:08.840 So again, another example, suppose we have fault X that has a 75% contribution 835 01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:14.660 and hence it's the largest contributor and fault Y has a 20% contribution. 836 01:08:14.660 --> 01:08:20.510 So it's included because the ratio of 20 divided by 75 is greater than 10%. 837 01:08:21.350 --> 01:08:26.720 However, followed see is ignored because it's 5% contribution, it's less than 10% 838 01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:27.980 of 75. 839 01:08:32.370 --> 01:08:39.510 The slide is a reminder that in section 20 1.5.3, the determination of the 840 01:08:40.320 --> 01:08:46.230 PGA is similar in both ASCE 7-16 and the ASCE 7-22 standards. 841 01:08:46.590 --> 01:08:50.670 And that is, you take the law of the probabilistic and deterministic PGA 842 01:08:50.670 --> 01:08:57.060 values, but note that the resulting PGA must be greater than or equal to 80% of 843 01:08:57.060 --> 01:09:03.210 the PGA from the USGS Seismic Design Geo database or another more user friendly 844 01:09:03.210 --> 01:09:04.650 data access tool. 845 01:09:07.610 --> 01:09:12.470 Now for the revisions to the vertical ground motion provisions in Section 11.9 846 01:09:13.010 --> 01:09:20.660 recall they were first introduced in ASCE 7-16 as the parameter sub A and V, and 847 01:09:20.660 --> 01:09:24.320 that's the symbol for the vertical component response spectral acceleration. 848 01:09:25.820 --> 01:09:27.110 This provision was. 849 01:09:27.110 --> 01:09:27.920 Optional. 850 01:09:30.460 --> 01:09:35.920 The spectrum was defined by equations for four specific vertical natural period 851 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:42.350 ranges. And it was derived from vertical to horizontal component response spectral 852 01:09:42.350 --> 01:09:46.010 ratios applied to the MCI response spectrum. 853 01:09:48.220 --> 01:09:52.900 There is one limitation and that is there is no equation to define the vertical 854 01:09:52.900 --> 01:09:55.810 component spectrum for periods greater than 2 seconds. 855 01:09:56.350 --> 01:10:00.640 Rather, a state specific study was required to determine the spectrum for 856 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:05.140 those periods, and there was a major oversight. 857 01:10:06.550 --> 01:10:11.770 The horizontal component and the voltage ratio was the geometric mean, whereas the 858 01:10:11.780 --> 01:10:17.140 MCI response spectrum acceleration was for the direction of maximum shaking. 859 01:10:19.970 --> 01:10:23.780 So in the update, this limitation and oversight were corrected. 860 01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:29.450 The limitation was corrected by including an equation for periods greater than 2 861 01:10:29.450 --> 01:10:35.730 seconds. And the oversight was corrected by dividing the response spectrum by 862 01:10:35.730 --> 01:10:41.070 period dependent factors f sub md to convert this spectrum to the geometric 863 01:10:41.070 --> 01:10:47.130 mean. Now these factors are given by equations for three specific period 864 01:10:47.130 --> 01:10:52.800 ranges. Like Nico said, they were based on tabular values of these factors in the 865 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:57.870 2014 Shanahan Baker publication in the Earthquake Spectra Journal. 866 01:10:59.100 --> 01:11:03.930 Also, the vertical coefficient C sub V was revised to accommodate the nine new 867 01:11:03.930 --> 01:11:05.070 CI classes. 868 01:11:06.270 --> 01:11:14.040 The new CCP values are now found in table 11 .9-1 and they now depend on SE sub MZ 869 01:11:14.040 --> 01:11:16.020 rather than sub s. 870 01:11:17.970 --> 01:11:23.130 So here is a plot comparing the vertical and horizontal component response spectra 871 01:11:23.130 --> 01:11:26.310 for a CI Class D site in Irvine, California. 872 01:11:27.300 --> 01:11:31.920 You see that the vertical component spectrum is greater than the horizontal 873 01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:36.750 component at short periods, but the horizontal component spectrum is much 874 01:11:36.750 --> 01:11:38.580 greater at the longer periods. 875 01:11:38.580 --> 01:11:43.170 And this plot is typical for sites near active faults. 876 01:11:47.850 --> 01:11:52.260 Lastly, I'll discuss the provisions for determining site class and the associated 877 01:11:52.440 --> 01:11:57.000 CPR response spectrum when Stairway Velocity data are not available at a 878 01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:03.460 site. So recall in section 20.3 and I 716. 879 01:12:03.480 --> 01:12:08.310 The site class is determined from either the average share velocity in the upper 880 01:12:08.310 --> 01:12:15.030 100 feet, the average blow count over this depth or the average shear strength 881 01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:20.190 and the ranges of these parameters for the different site classes were provided 882 01:12:20.190 --> 01:12:22.800 in table 20 .3-1. 883 01:12:24.860 --> 01:12:32.420 However, an ASCE 7-22, the corresponding table 20.2-1 only includes average shear 884 01:12:32.420 --> 01:12:35.330 weight. Velocity is the classification criterion. 885 01:12:35.630 --> 01:12:40.490 The blow count and untrained shear strength criteria have eliminated, as 886 01:12:40.490 --> 01:12:41.540 Charlie mentioned. 887 01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:46.880 So the question is, why were these revisions made? 888 01:12:48.270 --> 01:12:52.650 First, the average share velocity was considered a better indicator of sight 889 01:12:52.650 --> 01:12:54.000 response effects. 890 01:12:55.280 --> 01:12:59.630 Secondly, the blow count and shear strength ranges were outdated by about 30 891 01:12:59.630 --> 01:13:04.520 years, and even back then they were based mostly on judgment with no solid 892 01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:05.750 technical basis. 893 01:13:07.160 --> 01:13:10.940 And finally, the revision was made to encourage the use of sure wave velocity 894 01:13:10.940 --> 01:13:14.090 measurements for site classification purposes. 895 01:13:15.590 --> 01:13:19.970 However, it was acknowledged there will be projects where the service is not 896 01:13:19.970 --> 01:13:25.760 measured and in those cases applicable correlations between shear wave velocity 897 01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:30.390 and other parameters say such as blow count or competitor. 898 01:13:30.430 --> 01:13:35.690 Amateur test data are to be used to obtain the sheer weight velocity profile. 899 01:13:35.870 --> 01:13:40.700 Once that profile's obtained, then one computes the average shear wave velocity 900 01:13:40.700 --> 01:13:47.420 from that profile and determine the site classes from that value 1.3 times that 901 01:13:47.420 --> 01:13:50.660 value and that value divided by 1.3. 902 01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:55.850 Then you select the most critical site class at each period, which is the one 903 01:13:55.850 --> 01:14:00.980 that results in the largest MCE response spectral acceleration. 904 01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:07.460 So here's a hypothetical example illustrating the procedure. 905 01:14:07.550 --> 01:14:12.090 Let's take the same Irvine site that's been used and assume the stairway 906 01:14:12.140 --> 01:14:16.970 velocity profile was constructed from a correlation with another sole parameter. 907 01:14:18.400 --> 01:14:23.440 And let's say the soil profile of an average shear weight velocity of 850 feet 908 01:14:23.440 --> 01:14:25.480 per second, which puts the sign in sight. 909 01:14:25.480 --> 01:14:30.130 Class D 1.3 times this velocity would put it in sight. 910 01:14:30.130 --> 01:14:35.580 Class C, D, and this velocity divided by 1.3 would put it in sight. 911 01:14:35.590 --> 01:14:43.570 Class D then the MCI response spectrum from all three site classes 912 01:14:43.570 --> 01:14:46.300 is computed, and this plot shows the results. 913 01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:51.970 Basically, the envelope is taken as the final MCI response spectrum. 914 01:14:52.860 --> 01:14:57.120 And this particular example shows the possible overly conservative spectrum 915 01:14:57.300 --> 01:15:02.040 that would be obtained if the actual site class turned out to be CD. 916 01:15:02.550 --> 01:15:08.220 Note how the percent difference increases from 0.5 seconds where the spectral 917 01:15:08.220 --> 01:15:14.010 acceleration is 20% greater than the CD spectral acceleration and at 2 seconds 918 01:15:14.010 --> 01:15:16.800 where the percent increase is almost 100%. 919 01:15:17.130 --> 01:15:23.640 So the lesson is, is if you think that there's a high likelihood you're in site 920 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:29.070 class CD based on some information you have, say, at nearby sites, then it 921 01:15:29.070 --> 01:15:33.750 really pays to do a share way velocity measurement, particularly if the 922 01:15:33.750 --> 01:15:39.300 structural engineer tells you that his building period is 0.5 seconds or 923 01:15:39.300 --> 01:15:44.780 greater. And that concludes my presentation. 924 01:15:44.790 --> 01:15:47.490 Thank you for your patience. Thank you for your attention. 925 01:15:49.370 --> 01:15:51.770 Thank you. CB, Nico and Charlie. 926 01:15:52.820 --> 01:15:55.760 CB, if you could stop sharing your screen. 927 01:15:55.850 --> 01:15:58.970 I think we can go to a Q&A session. 928 01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:06.860 So we do get a lot of questions before I read out the questions to our panel. 929 01:16:07.400 --> 01:16:10.980 I want to let everyone know we've got about 20 questions. 930 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.330 Some of those questions has been answered, expanded for those. 931 01:16:14.420 --> 01:16:16.920 Know where to get the PowerPoint. 932 01:16:16.940 --> 01:16:20.000 How to get a certificate, where to download, etc. 933 01:16:20.030 --> 01:16:21.150 has to be answered. 934 01:16:21.170 --> 01:16:25.310 Also I saw Nico has been answering some of those questions, you know, like where 935 01:16:25.310 --> 01:16:27.460 to download the data, etc. 936 01:16:27.470 --> 01:16:33.380 So make sure to check some of those answered questions in the chat box. 937 01:16:33.530 --> 01:16:38.960 So I'm going to read out the other answers questions to to our panels. 938 01:16:39.320 --> 01:16:41.030 I will start from the very beginning. 939 01:16:42.140 --> 01:16:46.990 So I think today Nico, CB, I think anybody can answer this question. 940 01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:48.830 We have about eight questions. 941 01:16:49.250 --> 01:16:56.330 So the first one is what geographic areas is captured in the US database? 942 01:16:57.470 --> 01:17:00.710 Also, I will combine this with another question if the question. 943 01:17:00.740 --> 01:17:06.620 The second question is how do we get the data for locations that is outside the US 944 01:17:07.400 --> 01:17:08.120 database? 945 01:17:14.970 --> 01:17:16.680 Well, I'll start. 946 01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:26.430 So for the first question, the USGS database that really just covers the US 947 01:17:26.430 --> 01:17:30.030 and its territories. So it's the 50 states. 948 01:17:30.390 --> 01:17:31.110 And. 949 01:17:31.620 --> 01:17:37.230 Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands and American 950 01:17:37.230 --> 01:17:44.010 Samoa. One footnote to that is what Charlie mentioned, which was 951 01:17:45.390 --> 01:17:46.850 calculating multi periods. 952 01:17:46.900 --> 01:17:53.880 Spectra within the US directly is something that we only could do for the 953 01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:56.670 48 states for the US. 954 01:17:57.410 --> 01:18:01.960 Now. Yes, it could do it for Hawaii because we since the 2020 NEHRP 955 01:18:02.090 --> 01:18:08.090 provisions, we've had an update of the USGS hazard model for Hawaii, for the 956 01:18:08.090 --> 01:18:12.410 other states and territories where we could do that. 957 01:18:12.820 --> 01:18:19.100 That's our Charlie reference, this procedure to take a short period in 1/2 958 01:18:19.100 --> 01:18:26.060 value and sort of interpolate extrapolate those to the multi period spectrum. 959 01:18:28.580 --> 01:18:30.110 It is, Charlie, I'm sure. 960 01:18:31.490 --> 01:18:35.890 Four locations outside this covered by the US. 961 01:18:35.900 --> 01:18:38.300 She has for these multi period spectra. 962 01:18:38.330 --> 01:18:41.830 I'll just make one note that right now it's probably tough. 963 01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:46.190 You've got to do site specific and site specific with motion models that would 964 01:18:46.190 --> 01:18:51.440 let you get lots of different spectral periods and do different site classes, 965 01:18:51.440 --> 01:18:53.390 not just a reference site class. 966 01:18:55.100 --> 01:18:59.780 We'll say there's a project that we're working on with Department of Defense and 967 01:18:59.780 --> 01:19:07.370 Department of State to use the global earthquake model from model. 968 01:19:07.370 --> 01:19:15.110 And it's a compute these these design spectra from their ground motion 969 01:19:15.110 --> 01:19:19.790 models now to get to multi period internationally is still it's a four year 970 01:19:19.790 --> 01:19:22.250 project and that's the fourth year. 971 01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:28.280 So that is still, I guess, three, three years out from from now. 972 01:19:29.810 --> 01:19:33.950 You know, you also touch on one of the questions about the UFC, but they will 973 01:19:34.100 --> 01:19:35.230 return that later on. 974 01:19:35.330 --> 01:19:42.170 So the next question is about does HRC something new to require you to select 975 01:19:42.170 --> 01:19:48.890 the response for a specific period rather than recalculate a two point spectrum? 976 01:19:54.110 --> 01:19:55.400 So. So. So. Try to do it. 977 01:19:55.990 --> 01:20:03.830 Do you want to answer this one? Tardy, muted if you 978 01:20:03.830 --> 01:20:05.330 are speaking. 979 01:20:14.200 --> 01:20:20.920 Now. I didn't hear from Charlie. Hey, Nico, do you want to answer this one? 980 01:20:22.470 --> 01:20:24.660 He give a crack at what? 981 01:20:24.660 --> 01:20:28.380 We're answering the other questions, I will double check it because I know 982 01:20:28.380 --> 01:20:33.510 through the process this was a topic that went back and forth a little bit while 983 01:20:33.510 --> 01:20:35.510 the new provisions were being developed. 984 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:41.310 But I think we ended up with saying use the multi period spectrum unless you 985 01:20:41.310 --> 01:20:48.810 don't have it, which in the US and its territories you do have it. 986 01:20:48.810 --> 01:20:52.650 So you really are pushed to use that multi period spectrum. 987 01:20:52.770 --> 01:20:58.320 The two period spectrum is really there because it's recognized that people use 988 01:20:59.130 --> 01:21:05.460 provisions 87 overseas and they really might not have a multi period spectrum. 989 01:21:07.150 --> 01:21:09.760 So Charlie, CB do you want to chime in as well? 990 01:21:09.790 --> 01:21:16.600 Yeah. I'll just read from ASCE 7-22 Section 11 991 01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:21.520 .4.5 says Where a design response spectrum is required by the standard, the 992 01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:25.090 design response spectrum shall be determined in accordance with the 993 01:21:25.090 --> 01:21:31.180 requirements of section 11 .4.5.1, which is the multi period design response 994 01:21:31.180 --> 01:21:35.290 spectrum. However, there were two exceptions that were noted. 995 01:21:35.500 --> 01:21:40.150 First exception was where a site specific ground motion analysis is performed in 996 01:21:40.150 --> 01:21:43.000 accordance with Section 11 .4.7. 997 01:21:43.660 --> 01:21:47.770 The design response spectrum shall be determined in accordance with Section 998 01:21:47.770 --> 01:21:54.680 21.3, exception to said where values of the multi period 5% band C.R. 999 01:21:54.790 --> 01:22:00.940 response spectrum are not available from the USGS seismic design database or like 1000 01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:02.860 the ASCE 7 lookup tool. 1001 01:22:03.580 --> 01:22:07.300 The design response spectrum shall be permitted to be determined in accordance 1002 01:22:07.300 --> 01:22:13.420 with 11 .4.5.2, which is the two period design response spectrum concept. 1003 01:22:15.730 --> 01:22:21.370 Yep. That sounds good, Charlie. 1004 01:22:21.370 --> 01:22:25.960 If you if you if you don't have all the things and we're moving into the next 1005 01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:30.700 question. I hear nothing. 1006 01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:34.360 The next one is, you know, with a multiple response factor. 1007 01:22:34.870 --> 01:22:40.600 Does the return period of of the acceleration at each period vary? 1008 01:22:49.300 --> 01:22:50.170 Yes. 1009 01:22:53.030 --> 01:22:54.150 Making sure. 1010 01:22:56.510 --> 01:22:57.740 Yes. Yeah. 1011 01:22:57.740 --> 01:23:00.410 So it was from. 1012 01:23:01.460 --> 01:23:09.410 Yeah. It does vary with spectral period and also would actually vary with site 1013 01:23:09.710 --> 01:23:17.650 class. But this isn't really new because since the misuse of ah motion 1014 01:23:17.660 --> 01:23:23.660 is their risk targeted, the, the return period, the hazard return period already 1015 01:23:23.660 --> 01:23:28.160 varied spatially even in ASCE 7-16. 1016 01:23:28.670 --> 01:23:36.170 So the, the risk targets are all uniform except where deterministic controls the 1017 01:23:36.170 --> 01:23:40.820 risk target is the same everywhere spatially it's the same across the 1018 01:23:40.820 --> 01:23:46.370 different spectral periods and it's the same across the the cycle, but not the 1019 01:23:46.550 --> 01:23:49.520 uniform or hazard return period. 1020 01:23:53.440 --> 01:23:55.680 Okay. Again participate. 1021 01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:57.580 If you guys want to try me, let me know. 1022 01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:59.850 Otherwise, I will keep moving to the next question. 1023 01:24:01.440 --> 01:24:06.210 So the next question is why the difference in spectral acceleration 1024 01:24:06.210 --> 01:24:10.080 between t equal to 0/2 and the PJ. 1025 01:24:14.370 --> 01:24:15.460 Can you repeat that? 1026 01:24:15.480 --> 01:24:17.580 Which period were we talking about? 1027 01:24:17.580 --> 01:24:17.970 What was the. 1028 01:24:17.970 --> 01:24:24.060 Period between t equal to zero 0/2 and PJ? 1029 01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.620 The peak quantum ground acceleration? 1030 01:24:28.130 --> 01:24:34.580 Well, the peak ground acceleration, that's is the geometric mean. 1031 01:24:34.580 --> 01:24:41.900 I believe that's to be used in primarily chapter or a section 11 .8.3. 1032 01:24:46.420 --> 01:24:48.160 The PGA subsidy. 1033 01:24:50.690 --> 01:24:54.380 If that's that's that would be the reason for the difference. 1034 01:24:56.230 --> 01:25:03.370 Okay. So the next question I think CB answered this one in your presentation is 1035 01:25:03.370 --> 01:25:09.460 asking is the vertical response affected unless you have something to add? 1036 01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:11.770 But I think you answer this question in your presentation. 1037 01:25:15.610 --> 01:25:19.360 The question is about the vertical response spectrum. 1038 01:25:19.630 --> 01:25:21.610 What is what is the question? 1039 01:25:22.360 --> 01:25:25.270 Is the vertical response affected? 1040 01:25:28.410 --> 01:25:29.760 Is the fact that I don't. 1041 01:25:33.010 --> 01:25:38.200 The vertical response is based on the MCE response. 1042 01:25:41.100 --> 01:25:47.550 So we had we had to correct some things, as I mentioned in my presentation. 1043 01:25:47.550 --> 01:25:55.230 But the it's all based on primarily the V over ratios that are multiplied 1044 01:25:55.230 --> 01:26:03.030 by the MCI response spectrum with the correction factors F sub MD which 1045 01:26:03.300 --> 01:26:06.150 were not included in ASCE 7-16. 1046 01:26:06.150 --> 01:26:10.620 And that was the oversight that needed to be corrected, as I mentioned. 1047 01:26:12.780 --> 01:26:17.220 Sounds good. So the next two questions are very similar in a similar manner. 1048 01:26:17.220 --> 01:26:24.300 So it's asking in a sense, the RC 72 has not been adopted by the code, which has 1049 01:26:24.300 --> 01:26:26.010 not been in effect. 1050 01:26:26.550 --> 01:26:32.190 The question is, can we use the updated the sizing parameters as of this SFD one 1051 01:26:32.190 --> 01:26:38.370 for the design while the bidding will be designed in accordance to the ASCE 7-16. 1052 01:26:39.120 --> 01:26:43.500 Similarly, I think this is from DOD or Nafdac asking though right now they are 1053 01:26:44.080 --> 01:26:51.750 still using the UFC 3-30101 for the structure engineer, which requires the 1054 01:26:51.750 --> 01:26:53.640 IBC 2018. 1055 01:26:54.480 --> 01:26:59.430 So the the new Mod period response spectrum won't be updated for that UFC 1056 01:26:59.430 --> 01:27:04.020 for a while. What can they do in the meantime to ensure the designs are 1057 01:27:04.020 --> 01:27:05.880 adequately adequate? 1058 01:27:05.910 --> 01:27:08.070 No, you know, knowing what we know now. 1059 01:27:08.940 --> 01:27:09.990 So, Jake. 1060 01:27:11.220 --> 01:27:12.720 Jake, you. This is Charlie. 1061 01:27:13.860 --> 01:27:15.150 I'm sorry. I lost. 1062 01:27:15.150 --> 01:27:17.520 I was lost there. I'll be I'll let me. 1063 01:27:18.110 --> 01:27:22.230 You know, these are minimum requirements an engineer can always use more. 1064 01:27:22.230 --> 01:27:27.090 So if you're if you take 7-22 and 7-16 and you choose to use T2 because it's 1065 01:27:27.090 --> 01:27:30.300 more conservative, nothing will hinder that. 1066 01:27:30.330 --> 01:27:34.410 If you went to a building department, however, with lower ground motion, you're 1067 01:27:34.410 --> 01:27:37.590 going to have to get the building department or the authority or the or in 1068 01:27:37.590 --> 01:27:41.430 this case, the military to agree to that. 1069 01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:46.740 But nothing would preclude you from using something that is an envelope of the two. 1070 01:27:48.430 --> 01:27:56.320 So what I have suggested on some projects is to 1071 01:27:56.320 --> 01:28:02.140 use the multi period response vector as a proxy for site specific spectrum 1072 01:28:02.140 --> 01:28:10.120 according to Chapter 21 and let that serve as the site 1073 01:28:10.120 --> 01:28:11.230 specific spectrum. 1074 01:28:11.230 --> 01:28:17.710 But it would have to be checked against the USGS 80% minimum requirement and say 1075 01:28:17.740 --> 01:28:20.740 ASCE 7-16, Chapter 21. 1076 01:28:24.190 --> 01:28:25.690 Okay. That sounds good. 1077 01:28:26.140 --> 01:28:31.060 The next question is, did the scaling scaling procedure also change? 1078 01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:33.160 How about the near fort? 1079 01:28:33.190 --> 01:28:37.090 Near fort motions and the scaling procedures for them? 1080 01:28:42.620 --> 01:28:47.930 Well, this is all built into the ground motion models that the USGS is using. 1081 01:28:47.930 --> 01:28:52.730 Near field effects are are built into those models. 1082 01:28:52.730 --> 01:28:56.780 So Nico, did you want to add anything to that? 1083 01:29:01.050 --> 01:29:02.270 Just reinforce that. 1084 01:29:02.270 --> 01:29:09.960 I mean, just with the scanning procedure might be referring to scaling for 1085 01:29:09.990 --> 01:29:13.590 promotion time series if you're doing response history analysis. 1086 01:29:13.980 --> 01:29:14.610 Oh. 1087 01:29:16.170 --> 01:29:22.630 I mean, if that's the case, this work is really affecting the target spectra, the 1088 01:29:22.650 --> 01:29:23.300 mix of. 1089 01:29:23.310 --> 01:29:23.910 Our. 1090 01:29:25.290 --> 01:29:31.260 Spectra, but but not changing the procedures by which you would get 1091 01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:38.670 promotion time series that match that, that spectrum and therefore also no 1092 01:29:38.670 --> 01:29:44.880 changes in requirements of how many near fall promotions you might have. 1093 01:29:45.750 --> 01:29:49.620 Chapter 16 and chapter 16 was updated for. 1094 01:29:51.170 --> 01:29:58.070 See 7-16 2015, but it was not updated this cycle much. 1095 01:30:00.130 --> 01:30:02.950 So are a little bit out of time. 1096 01:30:03.190 --> 01:30:05.380 It's 231. I think we have two more questions. 1097 01:30:05.530 --> 01:30:08.170 We'll try to answer all of them before we close this out. 1098 01:30:08.170 --> 01:30:10.950 So bear with us for another minute or two. 1099 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:17.560 So the next part is, you know, what should we expect for the AC 41? 1100 01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:28.450 We are we are only addressing ASCE 7, but the folks that are working on 41 are, I 1101 01:30:28.450 --> 01:30:32.260 think, struggling with how to incorporate this into 41. 1102 01:30:38.070 --> 01:30:39.000 Not there yet. 1103 01:30:39.480 --> 01:30:45.900 Not there yet. So the last question, I think all we can answer that is asking 1104 01:30:45.900 --> 01:30:52.440 Nico. You know, you mentioned the project 17 also or Elektra in 2019. 1105 01:30:52.440 --> 01:30:54.630 You mentioned the project project oh seven. 1106 01:30:54.810 --> 01:30:57.900 Can you share what are those projects? 1107 01:30:59.700 --> 01:31:01.710 Just give an overview. 1108 01:31:02.020 --> 01:31:06.150 What's difference between oh 717 without this project? 1109 01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:09.090 Okay. Yeah, I'll do a quick answer. 1110 01:31:09.120 --> 01:31:15.250 Let's say there's a webinar where with Ron Hamburger Zion. 1111 01:31:15.690 --> 01:31:18.030 If you're interested, that's a good one to watch. 1112 01:31:18.330 --> 01:31:26.070 I could also try to put links to reports from the final report from Project 17, 1113 01:31:26.070 --> 01:31:33.240 that's on the PSC website that there's something comparable for Project seven. 1114 01:31:33.240 --> 01:31:40.200 But in case there is Project 97 in the mid 1990s, that led to 1115 01:31:40.890 --> 01:31:47.040 before my time, but not entirely that led to the USB hazard model really being 1116 01:31:47.040 --> 01:31:51.540 directly used to produce maps for the neo provisions. 1117 01:31:51.720 --> 01:31:58.260 87 project oh seven was just ten years later and say, okay, let's look back at 1118 01:31:58.260 --> 01:32:02.490 what we did, see if there's any changes that we want to make. 1119 01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:08.940 We made some changes like the risk targeted promotions, for example, the 1120 01:32:08.940 --> 01:32:16.230 maximum direction scale factors, and then Project 17 in 2017, same thing, revisit 1121 01:32:16.230 --> 01:32:20.280 what was done ten years previously, see kind of what changes. 1122 01:32:20.280 --> 01:32:25.590 And those are changes for if you categorize it into four changes that I 1123 01:32:25.590 --> 01:32:28.770 showed on my slide from Project 17. 1124 01:32:29.550 --> 01:32:31.020 So I did share the link. 1125 01:32:31.100 --> 01:32:35.650 I'm not sure I share the link where you can listen to the recording on the May 1126 01:32:35.650 --> 01:32:37.650 19th webinar by Raw Hamburger. 1127 01:32:37.740 --> 01:32:44.090 And so that's risen to give you an overview how the internal the US system 1128 01:32:44.100 --> 01:32:46.740 has been developed in the past 30 years. 1129 01:32:47.460 --> 01:32:50.250 Even if we do have one more question, Charlie, this for you today. 1130 01:32:51.150 --> 01:32:55.170 So the question is made of multiple may the multi period response factor 1131 01:32:55.170 --> 01:33:01.200 underestimate the demand for periods for shorter periods where the spectrum is 1132 01:33:01.200 --> 01:33:06.720 flatter, the periods where equivalent displacement is not valid. 1133 01:33:09.430 --> 01:33:15.400 Um, I'm not sure I understand the question, but if it's a question about in 1134 01:33:15.400 --> 01:33:18.760 the Western U.S., we hope the spectra are accurate and they're not going to predict 1135 01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:20.830 anything in the in the east. 1136 01:33:20.830 --> 01:33:24.310 As I was central and eastern U.S., I was pointing out that the spectrum peaks at 1137 01:33:24.310 --> 01:33:30.460 shorter periods. If that's the question they the coefficients required for 1138 01:33:30.460 --> 01:33:36.700 design, SDS, SD one are fine for building design but and the response and there is 1139 01:33:36.700 --> 01:33:40.300 a multi period spectrum available. 1140 01:33:40.300 --> 01:33:45.400 So you have the spectrum available which would indicate much more shaking at 1141 01:33:45.670 --> 01:33:51.130 shorter periods, say ten and 20 hertz that could be used using in a multi 1142 01:33:51.130 --> 01:33:57.130 period response spectrum sense where the coefficients are underestimating that 1143 01:33:57.130 --> 01:33:59.080 spectrum. I can't think of I'd be on the case. 1144 01:33:59.080 --> 01:34:03.040 I think the question might be addressing central and eastern U.S., I'm not sure. 1145 01:34:04.660 --> 01:34:06.040 Okay. Thank you, Charlie. 1146 01:34:06.040 --> 01:34:11.140 I think if you are 5 minutes beyond your time, I want to take the time to thank 1147 01:34:11.140 --> 01:34:16.840 our all our speakers again for being with us and also thank our other attendees who 1148 01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:19.870 are streaming us to listen to this webinar. 1149 01:34:20.170 --> 01:34:25.450 As I said earlier, you can check out the other webinars in this series through the 1150 01:34:25.470 --> 01:34:26.680 PS website. 1151 01:34:26.710 --> 01:34:30.490 Also, the recording for today's webinar will be posted on that website. 1152 01:34:31.060 --> 01:34:35.140 With that I want to thank again for our speakers today and I will conclude 1153 01:34:35.140 --> 01:34:38.380 today's webinar. Thank you and I'm with you today.